Cooking with Marky: Aloo Gosht

Looks good, I also like the size of the photos. Not too big is the way forward I think! The last one however, is almost entirely out of focus. That's not DoF, that's partial blindness.
 
Would beef be a good alternative to the lamb, do you think? I want to give this ago and have some beef to use up.
 
Oynas said:
Curry Recipes Online?

Not authentic curry, mind. More the sort you would get from a restaurant.
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fez said:
This is a pretty good resource - http://www.curryhouse.co.uk/
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Both good but not the one I remember. The site really was a very busy forum with much curry related discussion.

EDIT: On second glance I think you might be right Oynas. After a bit of reading I remember some of the recopies :)

EDIT 2: And I'm a member which is always a dead giveaway :cool:

No need for authentic, it's more about technique than recipes.
 
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markyp23 said:
This is an Indian dish, "Aloo Gosht" (Lamb and Potatoes).
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i find it hard to believe this is a true indian dish.

first of all fresh lamb as far as i know isn't readily available in india you would probably need to search for days before you managed to find it if you could even find it at all, but i havent been to india in like 6/7 years so things may have changed with their recent economic boom over the past 5 years. but even still india is mainly a vegetarian nation but those that do eat meat (rare) there, its usually eggs (once a month) or chicken (once every 3 months) or on the very rare occasion (like once a year) it may be goat.

take this for example

Saag gosht or palak gosht is a version of the dish prepared with gosht (meat), often lamb in the Western world. The meat is usually cooked in a tandoor before being marinated in the other ingredients.

this basically means in india they may have saag with chicken or goat, but in the western world that gets changed to lamb in the recipe.

also another thing true indian dishes never mix potatoes with meat, the only one i know of is keema aloo, but even then its normally keema peas, ive only ever had keema aloo like twice ever in my life, this is someone who is ethnically indian, been to india 3 different times (first time for 1 year, 2nd time for 3 months and 3rd time for 6 months). i eat authentic indian on a very regular basis, and i have never came across such a dish.

do you know whereabouts in india supposedly this indian dish comes from? i would guess from a mainly christian region, if it is truely from india. but as i said this dich is most likely to be a indian style recipe with western mains thrown in (potatoes and lamb).
 
Great info Psycho but there's more than one definition of 'Indian dish'.

It could either mean originated in India, or frequently served in Indian restaurants. Culture and tradition evolves, see chicken tikka masala for example.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
i find it hard to believe this is a true indian dish.

first of all fresh lamb as far as i know isn't readily available in india you would probably need to search for days before you managed to find it if you could even find it at all, but i havent been to india in like 6/7 years so things may have changed with their recent economic boom over the past 5 years. but even still india is mainly a vegetarian nation but those that do eat meat (rare) there, its usually eggs (once a month) or chicken (once every 3 months) or on the very rare occasion (like once a year) it may be goat.

take this for example

Saag gosht or palak gosht is a version of the dish prepared with gosht (meat), often lamb in the Western world. The meat is usually cooked in a tandoor before being marinated in the other ingredients.

this basically means in india they may have saag with chicken or goat, but in the western world that gets changed to lamb in the recipe.

also another thing true indian dishes never mix potatoes with meat, the only one i know of is keema aloo, but even then its normally keema peas, ive only ever had keema aloo like twice ever in my life, this is someone who is ethnically indian, been to india 3 different times (first time for 1 year, 2nd time for 3 months and 3rd time for 6 months). i eat authentic indian on a very regular basis, and i have never came across such a dish.

do you know whereabouts in india supposedly this indian dish comes from? i would guess from a mainly christian region, if it is truely from india. but as i said this dich is most likely to be a indian style recipe with western mains thrown in (potatoes and lamb).
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Out of all the things you could have posted in this thread...you decided to over analyse the use of two words? Poor form.

@OP, Looks Lush. That books gotta be ordered soon.
 
Robbie G said:
Great info Psycho but there's more than one definition of 'Indian dish'.

It could either mean originated in India, or frequently served in Indian restaurants. Culture and tradition evolves, see chicken tikka masala for example.
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i dont know a single indian who makes chicken tikka masala in their own home. its not indian, its a british indian dish made by indian restaurants in order to make money.

authentic indian is:

keema peas (non veg and very rare in india)
aloo gobi
aloo mutter
aloo gujjar
paneer mutter
paneer dee poorji
anday dee poorji (non veg)
pakora kuree
aloo kuree
saag
aloo saag
paneer palak
aloo prathay
chicken on the bone (non veg)
aloo sholay
sholay
daal (various types)
aloo rajma

as you can see most of these true authentic dishes have aloo (potatoes) and usually something else vegetarian to accompany them but only 3 of them aren't vegetarian.

goat is something which is rarely eaten and only by the upper classes or those with lots of money mainly.

i hate when people call something indian when it clearly isn't, if a person born and raised in india wouldn't eat it, then its not indian.

when you go to an indian restaurant and eat a chicken tikka masala or a korma or a chasni, your actually eating a dish invented by indians in order to sell to the british. not made in order for themselves to eat, because they would never eat it.
 
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Psycho Sonny said:
i hate when people call something indian when it clearly isn't, if a person born and raised in india wouldn't eat it, then its not indian.

when you go to an indian restaurant and eat a chicken tikka masala or a korma or a chasni, your actually eating a dish invented by indians in order to sell to the british. not made in order for themselves to eat, because they would never eat it.
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This is a load of rubbish. Both my grandparents are from India and would happy eat a chicken tikka masala. Both my parents were also born in India, lived there over 15 years and moved to Africa. They still cook what I consider 'Authentic Indian food', even though the taste may have been slightly influenced by the ingredients avaliable to them at the time. Does this mean in your eyes that what they cook is not Indian food? :confused:

On a side note, the food in the OP looks awesome. :D
 
chet84 said:
This is a load of rubbish. Both my grandparents are from India and would happy eat a chicken tikka masala. Both my parents were also born in India, lived there over 15 years and moved to Africa. They still cook what I consider 'Authentic Indian food', even though the taste may have been slightly influenced by the ingredients avaliable to them at the time. Does this mean in your eyes that what they cook is not Indian food? :confused:

On a side note, the food in the OP looks awesome. :D
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i dont believe that, chicken tikka masala is bland, its basically a chicken korma with tharka added to it. maybe you make it differently where you are (recipes vary from place to place) but a chicken tikka masala here is.

cream (main ingredient)
tomato paste
garlic
ginger
chicken tikka (2nd main ingredient)
basic curry sauce (water, blended onions and some masala)

thats it, and with the amount of cream in it you cannot taste much of the other stuff.

i have never ever seen an authentic indian dish with cream in it which wasn't a dessert.

i have listed true authentic dishes above, do you parents know how to make any of them? a true indian woman would know how to make them all.
 
When you say authentic indian, do you mean indian food cooked at home or cooked at restaurants? The difference between the food is massive (talking about in India).

And Chicken Tikka Masala in India is not at all bland :p One of my fav. dishes because it's basically a much spicier version of Murgh Makhani. It's not as good as a chicken lababdar, but it's pretty damn close. One of the main reasons I was so disappointed when I saw what they did do it in London :( Added cashewnuts and what not and as you said, made it very bland. In India though, it is one of the spicier things.

Again, this isn't food cooked at home at all but is stuff you find in any restaurant (non-veg) you go to.

Also, you forgot the best dish ever in your list - Chole Bhature :D (I'm punjabi :p).

Though I fully agree with what you said about korma. That is disgusting :p No curry should look like that >_<
 
Sudden said:
When you say authentic indian, do you mean indian food cooked at home or cooked at restaurants? The difference between the food is massive (talking about in India).

And Chicken Tikka Masala in India is not at all bland :p One of my fav. dishes because it's basically a much spicier version of Murgh Makhani. It's not as good as a chicken lababdar, but it's pretty damn close. One of the main reasons I was so disappointed when I saw what they did do it in London :( Added cashewnuts and what not and as you said, made it very bland. In India though, it is one of the spicier things.

Again, this isn't food cooked at home at all but is stuff you find in any restaurant (non-veg) you go to.

Also, you forgot the best dish ever in your list - Chole Bhature :D (I'm punjabi :p).

Though I fully agree with what you said about korma. That is disgusting :p No curry should look like that >_<
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i just spelt it differently

Sholay on it's own because bhaturay is basically poori's and they are an accompaniment, they can be eaten with roti, prathay, naan, etc not just bhaturay.

its been a long time since ive had them, maybe 2 years i think now, they are too fattening. i prefer healthier foods. i may ask my fiancee to make some though as a treat in the nearby future.

im punjabi as well jatt sikh to be precise, but i no longer believe in caste system. its basically social racism.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
i dont believe that, chicken tikka masala is bland, its basically a chicken korma with tharka added to it. maybe you make it differently where you are (recipes vary from place to place) but a chicken tikka masala here is.

cream (main ingredient)
tomato paste
garlic
ginger
chicken tikka (2nd main ingredient)
basic curry sauce (water, blended onions and some masala)

thats it, and with the amount of cream in it you cannot taste much of the other stuff.

i have never ever seen an authentic indian dish with cream in it which wasn't a dessert.

i have listed true authentic dishes above, do you parents know how to make any of them? a true indian woman would know how to make them all.
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We will cook variations on them - no two curries will ever taste the same! My parents are from Gujarat, and from what I can remember a lot of the meals were chicken / meat based as well as a LOT of potatoes. Also being Gujarati, our authentic 'Indian' food is a lot different to yours.
 
chet84 said:
We will cook variations on them - no two curries will ever taste the same! My parents are from Gujarat, and from what I can remember a lot of the meals were chicken / meat based as well as a LOT of potatoes. Also being Gujarati, our authentic 'Indian' food is a lot different to yours.
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i take it you are hindu then?

nobody in india apart from the upper class and extremely rich can afford chicken on a regular basis. i come from a extremely rich family and even then i only ever got chicken like once a month.

all other meats are even more expensive.

traditionally all indian food had zero meat in it. its only over the past 20 years or so more and more people have began to eat more meat.
 
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