Copper sacked

hornetstinger said:
Just get a written disciplinary and he'll learn not to do it. So now he's on the dole.
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His usefulness as a police officer would be limited following a disciplinary for dishonest conduct.

Criminal defence solicitors ask for disclosure of any proven misconduct by arresting or witnessing officers. If this goof tried to present himself in court as an honest man providing a reliable account, he'd be shredded. Having had a disciplinary body listen to his account and decide they didn't believe him is pretty damning.
 
took the **** 3 times "He described suffering stomach cramps, migraines and irritable bowel syndrome". but could jump around like a loon when his horse won lol he deserved to be sacked
 
How can people be so blinkered and not see he was taking us all for a ride? I hate to crack the whip but I hope anyone who tries this in the future falls at the first.
 
PC Jonathan Adams went twice to Nottingham Racecourse and to Royal Ascot where he was seen celebrating a win on television.

The officer said the trips were "therapeutic" to deal with a "toxic" work environment.
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TFW he should have just e-mailed to say he was having a 'mental health day' - no questions asked :)
 
He'd asked for holiday, was refused it and lied and bunked off. I wouldn't stand for that from one of my team and would think trust was broken. Police should be held to high standards for integrity.
 
Seems reasonable to me. Taking the mickey once, OK would be harsh. Twice? Maybe still harsh. Three times? Can't really defend that.
 
This all reminds me of one of my old dad's staple epithets, I'm a dinosaur, but he was positively Jurassic.
He'd say, "If you want to make a living as a thief, join the Police Force, best job in the world for thieving, they get away with murder, people say, 'He wouldn't have done it, he's a copper.'"
He had a million of 'em, WW2 for example, "America had the money, Russia had the men, and England had the time."
If he saw an attractive woman, "Christ, I could drink her bathwater", or, "I could use her ***t for toothpaste."
No wonder my old mum would say, "Can't take him anywhere."
 
Skidder said:
He'd asked for holiday, was refused it and lied and bunked off. I wouldn't stand for that from one of my team and would think trust was broken. Police should be held to high standards for integrity.
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ah but in this case he was feeling stressed... this ties in nicely with the other thread, people are going to adapt and learn how to frame this stuff

in a few years time he won't need to bunk off, in fact I don't doubt that he perhaps was stressed (especially if he was refused leave - perhaps that suggests they were short staffed) - see the other thread re: a woman e-mailing her boss for a 'mental health day' - that was also for stress/anxiety

so in future what this copper or anyone else in his positions should do if refused annual leave and feeling stressed, is to quite legitimately e-mail/phone to say they're not coming in because they're taking a "mental health day"

the other question then is, what are you or aren't you allowed to do on a mental health day - if you're too sick (physically) to work then generally you'd stay at home and the only time anyone ought to spot you out and about when off sick for a short term physical illness is perhaps if you're popping to either the chemist or the GP. On the other hand if you're off sick for 'mental health' specifically stress/anxiety - well staying indoors might not be optimal, if it is depression related then perhaps you'll have no choice there anyway but if stress related then perhaps a day at the sea side or at the races etc.. would be beneficial.
 
AFAIK i can self define sick for a period of up to 7 days, which i think is the law for everyone?

So it is impossible to prove i am not sick, even if every single doctor in the world said i am not sick, technically i am still sick as i can self define, thus my statement overrides all others.

The problem he has is that he stated symptoms, and or called in multiple times sick.

It does not matter if he is lying as it clearly is a loophole, so either close the loophole or let him get away with it, assuming he does it properly, i.e. he says he is depressed and so forth. I'm sure a doctor would prescribe to do something fun like going out somewhere?
 
platinum87 said:
The problem he has is that he stated symptoms, and or called in multiple times sick.
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the problem is he did it three times and each time he'd actually been at the horse races... and he had a stake in a race horse

stating your symptoms 'stress, anxiety' shouldn't be an issue and neither should he be confined to home in that case... but it isn't really believable that the 3 times he was too stressed to come in happened to be the days when there were race meetings
 
I don't get it. 3 times?

Once? ok he called sickie i'm sure we've all done it once.

Other 2 times? why not just book a bit of holiday or inform them you have plans can you swap shifts or something....
 
Third occasion seems fair to me. Not like he was seen down the shops where you could reasonably state buying medication to treat the problem etc.

And besides, someone else would have had to cover his duties so going into a risky situation would have been them not he who ended up at possible risk of injury.

Most organizations these days have attendance management programmes designed to deter or weed out frequent casual sickies. From what I understand it normally escalates through various stages with dismissal being the last resort. Not if you're seen at the races though...
 
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