Core 2 Duo temp check please

Sean_UK · 25 Jun 2007 at 21:45

Hello, are idle temps 24/22c and stress 31/33C on E6600 cores at stock with aftermarket cooling pretty good? :confused:

Havent a clue since i + my two bro's recently left 6 years of AMD loyalty behind. :rolleyes:

stickroad · 25 Jun 2007 at 21:52

Sean_UK said:
Hello, are idle temps 24/22c and stress 31/33C on E6600 cores at stock with aftermarket cooling pretty good? Havent a clue since i + my two bro's recently left 6 years of AMD loyalty behind.

Yep thats fine mate, pretty good actually.

Oliet_No1 · 25 Jun 2007 at 21:52

If correct they are very good.

RJC · 25 Jun 2007 at 21:52

Yep, pretty good temps there, what cooler are you using.

Rob

Sean_UK · 25 Jun 2007 at 21:55

Good to hear. :cool:

Results taken using Scythe Infinity with x2 Akasa Ambers on Asus P5K-Deluxe mobo (fits board to my suprise).

Tooks · 25 Jun 2007 at 22:52

They seem very good, almost too good to be honest!

Try v0.95 of Coretemp though, as I used to get similar temps to those with my chip. Turns out v0.94 is a bit buggy with the newer conroes. (I appreciate that the e6600 has been out ages, but it could be a different stepping etc).

Have you tried TAT to corroborate the Coretemp readings?

EDIT: Just noticed you're running it at stock speed, so that makes a bit more sense. Is your room very cold?!

Sean_UK · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:08

Tooks said:
Is your room very cold?!

Nope, my indoor weather station suggests 24.7c

I'll try the new Core Temp as suggested aswell then.

Tooks · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:11

Sean_UK said:
Nope, my indoor weather station suggests 24.7c

In that case I would say that your reported temps are wrong. There is no way you'd get a chip idling on air at that close to the ambient temp. (In fact, one of your cores is reported at LESS than ambient, so if you think about it, how is that possible?)

I'd try TAT and Coretemp V0.95 to check.

Sean_UK · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:15

Room ambient to inner case ambient will differ, but yes does sound odd.

Tooks · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:23

Sean_UK said:
Room ambient to inner case ambient will differ, but yes does sound odd.

Yes, agreed, your case ambient will most likely be higher than your room ambient, what with the graphics, north and south bridges, ram etc etc.

Give this a quick downlaod (v0.95)! It added 15c to my temps, which then alligned to TAT.

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

Sean_UK · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:26

Tooks · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:33

I'm intrigued now!

Either you've got a phase unit in there by mistake, or your ambient temp thermometer is way out!

I would say next to ensure you've got the latest bios loaded, but Coretemp reads from the chip itself, so not sure what's going on there.

Ok, so the temps are wrong, but they are still the temps relative to your system, which is about as much as any of us can hope for. At least you know what the effect is if you start overclocking etc.

As long as it's stable, then what does it matter!

Sean_UK · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:41

Tooks said:
As long as it's stable, then what does it matter!

Coz its going to be overclocked a fair bit, as i said im clueless to what it should be around with aftermarket cooling since ive spent 6 years AMD; hence the thread. I thought temps seemed a tad too good compared to my old 4800+ (32/34c idle at stock with same cooler). Just instaled the Asus PC Probe II software bundle for a laugh. :rolleyes:

Mobo a bit toasty with that passive cooling. :eek:

Tooks · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:46

Definately not something right there then.

The problem with comparing temps is there are so many other variables at play, not least your case, ambient temps, fans, cooler, bios version, TIM, level of overclock, Vcore, other components etc etc.

But, as an indicator, right now my oc'd E4400 at 3.25Ghz is 37c, and that's on water. At stock, the CPU was approx 32/33, so not that different, but then I'm only using +0.275 Vcore to get that clock.

Sorry to keep asking you to try things, but have you tried TAT?

TAT Download

Jono8 · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:47

yeh im getting similar temps to you , i don't see why everyone is saying they are wrong.I'm also using a scythe infinity and two 1200rpm fans fitted. Getting like 20/22 degrees idle(well,web surfing). and about 35/36 under games and orthos. This is overclocked to. at 3.1ghz.

Tat also tells me tat also tells me the same story, infact every temp monitor i have tried shows these results.

Surely if the air cooling is good enough it would drop the cpu to below ambient temperatures with 2 fans fitted.

Sean_UK · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:48

Jono8 said:
yeh im getting similar temps to you

Ah now that interesting to hear, feel more at ease now. :cool:

Tooks · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:52

Dpn't keep meaning to rain on folks parades, but there is just no way that those temps can be right either...

Two wrongs don't make a right, unfortunately.

As I said, whatever the reported temps, at least you've got a baseline to work from.

The only way you'd get temps less than ambient is with phase or similar. (Somebody else come in here please!

)

Sean_UK · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:54

Tooks said:
Sorry to keep asking you to try things, but have you tried TAT?

Have now, slight diff there & under quick load run were both hitting 36/37 ish >

Jono8 · 25 Jun 2007 at 23:56

Tooks said:
Dpn't keep meaning to rain on folks parades, but there is just no way that those temps can be right either...

Two wrongs don't make a right, unfortunately.

As I said, whatever the reported temps, at least you've got a baseline to work from.

The only way you'd get temps less than ambient is with phase or similar. (Somebody else come in here please! )

whats the science behind that? surely if there is good airflow and the fans are blowing a lot of cold air onto the heatsink, its very feasible that it goes below ambient temperatures.I'm not sure of my ambient room temps but i would guess that they are around normal room temperature (say, 24 degrees) I have a 2000rpm sharkoon intake on the heatsink and a 1200rpm scythe exhausting air.

heres proof:

ns400r · 26 Jun 2007 at 00:02

surely if there is good airflows and the fans are blowing a lot of cold air onto the heatsink its very feasible that its goes below ambient temperatures

Not a snowballs chance in Hell of that happening !
You can't transfer heat from a cold object to a hot one.

http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/mod_tech/node79.html

http://www.ulanet.com/basic_concepts.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat

heres proof:

Proof that the sensors are wrong!