Core i5 or i7 for gaming?

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Will I get a decent performance boost from the i7 boards, or should I save cash by going for the i5?

It will be paired with a mid - top end graphics card and 6Gb of RAM.
 
I would go for the i5 and Overclock it just. Your not going to see a massive difference with the i7 for gaming and it's over kill in my opinion.
 
Would it be future-proofing in any way by buying the i7

Not really as the Sandybridge and Bulldozer chips are coming soon. Anyway there's no such a thing as future proofing with PC Tech in my experience as it's advancing at such a rate these days :)
 
In almost all games (and at the same clockspeed) i5 (700 series) and i7 CPUs are almost exactly as fast as each other. In fact the i5 is sometimes faster due to the way the PCIe bus is connected.

The main benefit of going for an i7 is that it has hyperthreading enabled, however hardly any current games make use of this. In the future hyperthreading may be better exploited in games, but at the minute four processor threads (or even two) is usually enough.

The other main benefit of the i7 900 series is the use of X58 boards. These boards almost all allow SLI and Crossfire, also they can run a dual-GPU system at full PCIe v2 x16x16 speed (the i5's P55 boards are limited to x8x8 speed). However, if you only plan on using a single card then the P55/i5 option makes much more sense.

Another good option is an AMD Phenom II X4 system, this will cost even less than an i5 system and in games it will be just as good.

Also, just so you are aware, AMD and Intel are releasing brand-new CPU and motherboard generations at the start of next year (Q1 2011). For gaming this won't give you much extra performance (as games performance is almost always bottlenecked by graphics power) but if you have a decent current system and don't need to upgrade right now - then waiting would make sense. May I ask what your current rig is?
 

Good post. The i5 does only go to two 8x slots due to the way the cpu works. However using a 5870 in an 8x slot makes about 2% difference iirc (some big gaming website did a test - Even 4x doesn't do much).

I bought an i5 and spent the money I saved on a decent hsf.
The cpu now runs at 4ghz is an absolute monster. An i7 will have HT and will also have triple channel memory (unless you buy the one i7 that uses the i5 boards) but that is it. Not exactly a lot to justify the cost imo.
 
Agreed - for a pure gaming machine the i7 is not the best choice, as so much money needs to be spent on CPU+mobo+RAM when you could spend a fair bit less on an i5/Phenom II and get a better graphics card and achieve much better gaming performance for the same money. However, if you also use CPU heavy applications (like CAD, image/video/audio editing etc.) then the i7 does perform a fair bit better, so the extra cost can be justified.

As for the PCIe connections on the P55 - you are quite right, at the moment the x8 is generally enough and the reduction in performance is small. From a pure "future graphics upgrade" point of view it would be better to have dual x16x16 - but right now the difference is pretty academic.

However, it should be pointed out that not all P55 boards do "proper" x8x8 crossfire/SLI. Most have the second slot limited to x4 speed - which certainly reduces multi-GPU performance. To get the full x8x8, you need to get a board like this, which isn't too far off the cost of an X58 board like this.
 
In almost all games (and at the same clockspeed) i5 (700 series) and i7 CPUs are almost exactly as fast as each other. In fact the i5 is sometimes faster due to the way the PCIe bus is connected.

The main benefit of going for an i7 is that it has hyperthreading enabled, however hardly any current games make use of this. In the future hyperthreading may be better exploited in games, but at the minute four processor threads (or even two) is usually enough.

The other main benefit of the i7 900 series is the use of X58 boards. These boards almost all allow SLI and Crossfire, also they can run a dual-GPU system at full PCIe v2 x16x16 speed (the i5's P55 boards are limited to x8x8 speed). However, if you only plan on using a single card then the P55/i5 option makes much more sense.

Another good option is an AMD Phenom II X4 system, this will cost even less than an i5 system and in games it will be just as good.

Also, just so you are aware, AMD and Intel are releasing brand-new CPU and motherboard generations at the start of next year (Q1 2011). For gaming this won't give you much extra performance (as games performance is almost always bottlenecked by graphics power) but if you have a decent current system and don't need to upgrade right now - then waiting would make sense. May I ask what your current rig is?

ye great post andi pretty much says it all. ive seen the i7950 as low as £211 and the patriot viper ram as low as £99 and the new asus TUF board is pretty sick for £156. personally ive found it hard not to spend a little extra, im a sucker:o you never know wots round the corner that could use this power;)
 
May I ask what your current rig is?

Of course you can mate.

I don't have a desktop atm. I have 2 x gaming laptops from Rock Direct. One is pretty old by computer standards and the newer one is 2-3 years old as well.

Therefore I need to buy a desktop and monitor from scratch.

My 'best' laptop is the Rock XtremeCTXPro, 2Gb RAM, IntelCore2duo T7200 (2ghz), nVidia Geforce GO 7950 GTX.
 
Ah, in that case you probably want to get something built ASAP.

If you give us a budget we can provide you with some spec options.

So you will be needing the box and the monitor, I assume you will also be needing the operating system (Windows 7 HP 64 bit)? Will you also be needing any peripherals included within the budget (eg mouse, keyboard, speakers, headset etc.)?

In your OP you mention that the system will be for gaming, are there any other important tasks that you will be using the PC for that you want it to work well with?
 
As for the RAM - is the 1600ghz much faster for gaming than the 1333ghz?

Graphics cards I'm stuck on! I've been advised to wait for the announcement at the end of this month on the new 6xxx series. It all depends on pricing and release dates really, as I want a system to play the new COD on at the beginning of next month. I was going to go top-end, but realise that I don't really have the budget. So currently looking at either the GTX 460 or the HD 5850.

Any idea when the 6xxx series is announced?
 
Ah, in that case you probably want to get something built ASAP.

If you give us a budget we can provide you with some spec options.

So you will be needing the box and the monitor, I assume you will also be needing the operating system (Windows 7 HP 64 bit)? Will you also be needing any peripherals included within the budget (eg mouse, keyboard, speakers, headset etc.)?

In your OP you mention that the system will be for gaming, are there any other important tasks that you will be using the PC for that you want it to work well with?

I will need the box and innards for sure mate! I have a gaming mouse, speakers and headset already, so sorted on that score. A monitor is a must too. I'm looking at a 24" BenQ for this. Windows 7 64bit HP will be the OS for sure.

I will be gaming as a primary use, and simply browsing the net at other times - nothing else will be too intensive.
 
i put this together, its very similar to mine, runs everything i play on high to very high settings, not metro 2033 in dx11, but lush to use....
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I will need the box and innards for sure mate! I have a gaming mouse, speakers and headset already, so sorted on that score. A monitor is a must too. I'm looking at a 24" BenQ for this. Windows 7 64bit HP will be the OS for sure.

I will be gaming as a primary use, and simply browsing the net at other times - nothing else will be too intensive.

I gotcha.

Do you have a budget in mind? If you give us that we can throw some nice gaming focussed specs your way.

As for 1333MHz vs 1600Mhz - it really depends what the platform you will be using it on and what the price difference is.

From what I hear - the 6800 series will be released at the end of this month and the 6900 series will be released in November. No Idea about pricing - but hopefully the 6850 will come in at a price similar to what the 5850 currently costs.
 
I gotcha.
From what I hear - the 6800 series will be released at the end of this month and the 6900 series will be released in November. No Idea about pricing - but hopefully the 6850 will come in at a price similar to what the 5850 currently costs.

Probably best to wait then!

I find the idea of building my own PC fairly daunting tbh - I'm not the most patient or technically-minded of blokes :)

However, I can't seem to see any cracking deals at any online gaming pc retailer......

As for budget - that is fairly fluid. I don't want to spend an arm and a leg, but £1000 would seem fair for a decent rig plus a monitor. As I say less spent would be better, and slightly more if required.

The PC must be good for gaming and upgradability though, and capable of joining my wireless network.
 
I've run my RAM at both 1600 and 1333 on my i5 760 PC and not really noticed a difference. The problem with running at 1600 on the P55 platform is that it automatically applies a small overclock to your CPU which disables the built-in overclocking turbo mode. Of course if you're planning to overclock anyway, then that's not a problem.
 
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