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Core i5 Specifications and Prices Surface

Won't the i5's have on die graphics, or have I been smoking some chemicals again?

I heard that somewhere too. I doubt they'd use JUST on-die graphics, as that won't be able to compete with separate cards just yet, but I reckon it'll be an "optional", as a better alternative to on-board graphics.

I actually hope they DON'T produce dual-cores for 1156. The more quad-cores on the market, the more likely it is we'll see support for them. If we hang on to dual cores, we're never going to progress. There's only so much architecture changes and clock speed can do.

Also, remember how much prices come down. RAM has come down a huge amount, and motherboards and CPU's have dropped about £30 each, although they have been rising recently. If i5 mobo's and CPU's drop about £30 each after release, we'd start seeing much more reasonable pricing.
 
anyone have any idea which socket type will be used in the future? wether its worth getting an i7 in the knowledge that future CPUs will use the same socket, or if the socket used in i5 will be the one the next cpus use?
 
1336 will be for performance processors such as the i7 and chipsets like the x58 where the manufacturers can tweak and play with the bios a lot more.
Will also offer triple channel ram

1156 will be for the i5 which is supposed to be locked down a lot more and the chipsets like the P55 not offer features for tweaking the processor and chipset speeds. Also offer only dual channel memory but will offer IGP versions as well. Is aimed at the mainstream market and people not looking to tweak there hardware. As such the 1156 and Core i5 probably isn't going to be of interest to a lot of people on this forum.

I would also expect to see less features and PCI-E lanes on the P55 boards, in the same way that the X48 boards have dual PCI-E x16 with full x16 slots, and the P45 having 2 x 16 that operate at x8 when both used. Will likely see a similar PCI-E lane slot count on the P55 leaving the X58 with the full 2 x 16 slots or more.

As such with no or limited overclocking potential on the boards then would expect to see the board price much lower then the x58 systems, which should make the overall system cheaper.

Of course Nvidia is supposed to have arranged a license for the skt 1156 so may see a full PCI-E count for Tri or even Quad SLI with there chipset, which will push the board price up.

As such expect to see future processors on 1336 and 1156 with consumers choosing whichever one seems best suited to them. Is a bit of a replay of the skt 754 and skt 939 from AMD years ago
 
Sums it up nicely imo its socket 754 and Socket 939 all over again :)

And after intel are done after 2-3 years with that mess they will come out with one new socket claiming longer support and further support for newer cpus and compatibility :)
 
I would also expect to see less features and PCI-E lanes on the P55 boards, in the same way that the X48 boards have dual PCI-E x16 with full x16 slots, and the P45 having 2 x 16 that operate at x8 when both used. Will likely see a similar PCI-E lane slot count on the P55 leaving the X58 with the full 2 x 16 slots or more.

i5's have 2x16 lane PCIe version 2 controller built into the CPU, there is no way to expand that.

i7's have the much faster QPI on the CPU, with the PCIe controllers sitting in the X58 chipset. X58 boards can have more than 2 full speed x16 slots. So you should get SLI on i5 boards, but you'll need X58 for tri or quad SLI etc.

Some i5's will have an integrated GPU at some point, though they might not be in the initial releases.

i5's are dual DDR3, while i7's are tri DDR3.

The i7 platform is considerably better than i5, but with a quad core the differences really dont play out, quad's arnt stressing the memory bandwidth enough yet. But the 6 and 8 core parts (12/16 threads with HT) could really start benifiting from the tri channel memory, and the 6/8 core parts should be compatible with existing X58 motherboards.

So it will be i5 for quads' and i7 for hex/octo core parts. The i7's will probably get some frequency jumps too to keep the i7 quads outperforming the i5 quads.
 
Just over a year ago I spent over a grand on a 775 "flagship system" Now Here I am looking at 2 more different socket types from the same manafacturer both of which are better than mine . Well I guess I just have to give in and realise that my income cant keep up with the pace at which new technology arrives :(


Nothing wrong with your rig in your sig. It should serve you for another year or two at least. Plenty of time for prices to come down and save a nest egg towards it.
 
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