Core2XXX for a sugo01?

Reality Bites · 23 Jul 2007 at 10:15

Coin toss between the q6600 or the e6850.

it's going into a sugo01 with the fanless silverstone heatsink......the only thing stopping me going quad is the heat.

what sort of temps should i expect from each of them?

melbourne720 · 23 Jul 2007 at 10:20

Quad core, it has 2 more cores.

Participant · 23 Jul 2007 at 10:22

What are you doing with this PC. If it's an HTPC then quad might be worth it as you could be encoding / decoding high defition output etc etc. If it's just a browsing media player then the 6850 will be fine, but with the outlay being similar the extra cores are bound to come in handy 6 months down the line.

Reality Bites · 23 Jul 2007 at 10:24

it's going to be used for lots of things. Movies, music....the 'odd' game and general use.

What are the temps like with the quad though?

Participant · 23 Jul 2007 at 10:30

Reality Bites said:
it's going to be used for lots of things. Movies, music....the 'odd' game and general use.

What are the temps like with the quad though?

Fine, if you're leaving it at stock? When you see people complaining about the temps it's generally those that are running them @ 3GHz and overvolting them. That said they're still slightly higher at stock but nothing to cry about.

Reality Bites · 23 Jul 2007 at 11:16

Robbie G said:
Fine, if you're leaving it at stock? When you see people complaining about the temps it's generally those that are running them @ 3GHz and overvolting them. That said they're still slightly higher at stock but nothing to cry about.

do you have any figures to compare them?

krooton · 23 Jul 2007 at 11:40

Robbie G said:
What are you doing with this PC. If it's an HTPC then quad might be worth it as you could be encoding / decoding high defition output etc etc. If it's just a browsing media player then the 6850 will be fine, but with the outlay being similar the extra cores are bound to come in handy 6 months down the line.

Surely HD output doesn't need 4 cores?

Biffa · 23 Jul 2007 at 11:47

From what I have read the difference at stock is around 10-15 degrees. With the Quad being the higher of the two.

So Q6600/e6850 idle 40/30 degrees, load 60+/45+

Reality Bites · 23 Jul 2007 at 11:53

Biffa said:
From what I have read the difference at stock is around 10-15 degrees. With the Quad being the higher of the two.

So Q6600/e6850 idle 40/30 degrees, load 60+/45+

think i'll have to go 6850 then as the temps will be hotter in a fanless sugo....?

Participant · 23 Jul 2007 at 11:55

krooton said:
Surely HD output doesn't need 4 cores?

Not at all, but it will help, especially with multi-threaded decoding apps being released.

Participant · 23 Jul 2007 at 11:55

Reality Bites said:
think i'll have to go 6850 then as the temps will be hotter in a fanless sugo....?

I'll ask again - are you planning to overclock?

Edit: oops, sorry for double post.

Reality Bites · 23 Jul 2007 at 11:56

Robbie G said:
I'll ask again - are you planning to overclock?

no.....can't really overclock with a fanless heatsink in a sugo. sorry...should have said that in the OP

Participant · 23 Jul 2007 at 11:56

Reality Bites said:
no.....can't really overclock with a fanless heatsink in a sugo. sorry...should have said that in the OP

I would go for the quad. The temps won't be an issue at stock.

Reality Bites · 23 Jul 2007 at 12:31

Robbie G said:
I would go for the quad. The temps won't be an issue at stock.

just found the 6850 at £10 less than the quad.....that's a great buy?!

Participant · 23 Jul 2007 at 12:39

My last word is that 4 cores at 2.4 GHz is more than £10 better than 2 cores at 3 GHz for a media PC. I'm sure others will agree.

ergonomics · 23 Jul 2007 at 12:44

yeah i agree with that tbh. quad is futureproofing (slightly anyway)

Reality Bites · 23 Jul 2007 at 12:55

guess i'll have to try and get the GO stepping for the lower heat then.....

Reality Bites · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:33

£167inc del for the quad.....think i'll couple that with 2 sets of

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-017-GS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813

and a

Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R Micro ATX (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

Tute · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:46

Fact is buddy, you've got a Quad Core at 2.4GHz or a Dual Core at 3.0GHz.

Even in single threaded applications, that Quad is going to give you more than enough power, not as much as the E6850, but enough that it's not going to affect you.

And when multi-threaded apps pop up, the Q6600 will destroy all the Dual Core range, no questions asked.

I'd recommend waiting for a G0 stepping though, less heat output on those.

You could always, pop a Zalman CNPS8000 in the Sugo, raise the FSB to 333 (giving 3GHz), and the Zalman is active cooling but silent so it won't affect temperature much.

Reality Bites · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:53

it's just how long i'm going to have to wait.

I'm without a pc at the moment....doing my head in, although i know with it going in the sugo that the 95w version would help.