Corsair Carbide mATX refit

[Willowbark]

Evening folks,

I want to put some new innards in a Corsair Carbide mATX case and I'm looking for some help. It's for games and graphics, but nothing bleeding edge. I'd like to keep it under £1500, but I'm willing to overspec to gain longevity. The monitor is an existing DELL P2723DE using HDMI through a KVM switch.

It's built in as a stack of two PCs, so there's some extra heat and the airflow is a little bit restricted. Coordinated colours and LEDs will not be visible so it can be a mismatch of styles just as long as it works and I can make the wiring neat (I'll know that it's neat even if it's never seen). The confined space set-up is part of my reason for picking a Ryzen 7700 over Intel or even the 7700X. Please let me know if the stock cooler is bad, I'd like to stick with air-cooling. I think I may have gone a bit over the top with the 750W PSU, will anything use that much?

1 X Asus TUF Gaming B650M-Plus (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro ATX Motherboard - £205.00
SKU: MB-6K3-AS

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1 X AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Eight Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £299.98
SKU: CP-3DV-AM

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1 X Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF556C36BBEK2-32) - £119.99
SKU: MY-29U-KS

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1 X Asus GeForce RTX 4060Ti Dual OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £329.99
SKU: GX-49G-AS

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1 X Asus TUF Gaming 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply - £134.99
SKU: CA-061-AS

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1 X Kingston FURY Renegade 2TB PCI-e 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive with Heatsink - £189.95
SKU: STO-KNG-01333

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3 X Corsair AF120 ELITE 120mm High-Performance PWM Fan - Black - £11.98
SKU: FG-086-CS

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Total: £1,335.82

Many thanks in advance

 

[Tetras]

and graphics

What kind of graphics?

Please let me know if the stock cooler is bad, I'd like to stick with air-cooling.

The stock cooler is acceptable (better than the 7600's cooler), but a peerless assassin or phantom spirit are pretty cheap to buy and much better.

I think I may have gone a bit over the top with the 750W PSU, will anything use that much?

No, it is not necessary, but most models start at 650 now anyway.

I'd like to keep it under £1500, but I'm willing to overspec to gain longevity.

If you're planning to keep the CPU for awhile I'd just get the X3D, but if you're intending to upgrade in 2-3 years time then sure, I get it.

The 4060 Ti 8GB really needs replacing, it is not ideal for long-term gameplay @ 1440p and AMD's options are better value in this price range, but if you're doing 3D work then maybe go with the 4070 non-Super (Zotac's Twin Edge models are pretty short/compact).

1 X Kingston FURY Renegade 2TB PCI-e 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive with Heatsink - £189.95

I'd get the WD SN770 2TB for £120, it is better value.

 

[Willowbark]

Fast and forensic, thank you Tetras.

Graphics are only going to be the free stuff, Sketch-up, Studio and GIMP.

I'd rather only install the air-cooler once so yep, peerless assassin or phantom spirit thank you.

PSU stays, ta.

7800X3Done

I confess NVIDIA is probably more of a personal bias. I'll be favouring gaming over design these days so I'd love to hear some more recommendations for this.

Are additional heatsinks needed for M.2 WD SN770 2TB?

Thanks for your time.

 

[mickyflinn]

Fast and forensic, thank you Tetras.

Graphics are only going to be the free stuff, Sketch-up, Studio and GIMP.

I'd rather only install the air-cooler once so yep, peerless assassin or phantom spirit thank you.

PSU stays, ta.

7800X3Done

I confess NVIDIA is probably more of a personal bias. I'll be favouring gaming over design these days so I'd love to hear some more recommendations for this.

Are additional heatsinks needed for M.2 WD SN770 2TB?

Thanks for your time.

No heatsink needed for the m2.

Ryzen 9000 series release date is July 31 you should wait.

 

[Tetras]

I confess NVIDIA is probably more of a personal bias. I'll be favouring gaming over design these days so I'd love to hear some more recommendations for this.

The 4060 Ti 8GB is pretty poorly regarded, it didn't improve performance hardly at all from the 3060 Ti and the 8GB of memory should have been lifted, especially with the cut to the memory bus.

AMD's 7700 XT is a decent chunk faster in raster and has a much bigger bus (192-bit versus 128-bit) so it less starved of memory bandwidth.

For longer-term play at 1440p I'd really recommend you get either a 7900 GRE or a 4070 Super, though the 7800 XT and 4070 non-Super are available at reasonable discounts. I'd say the best sub-£400 card is the RX 6800 16GB at £370.

The 4060 Ti 16GB isn't a bad card, but since they kept the bus width the same, it doesn't perform like you'd expect and so the price is hard to justify, especially when the 7800 XT (or lately, 4070 non-Super) is effectively a higher tier card in performance and not far off in price.

Graphics are only going to be the free stuff, Sketch-up, Studio and GIMP.

Ahh, okay, AMD can do 2D art fine, it is 3D (like blender) that nvidia are much better. You might want to double check there are no driver issues with those apps though, before you buy AMD.

 

[Willowbark]

Thanks mickyflinn and thanks again Tetras

 

[freddie64]

How about this spec? As mentioned new Ryzen released soon though.

Phantom spirit can be had for ~ same price as this cooler and has 7 heat pipes.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI MAG B650M Mortar WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-377-MS) = £179.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £314.99
• 1 x Crucial Pro OC 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-02219) = £109.99
• 1 x Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Ghost 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-GNW-01534) = £529.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Black Myth: Wukong Standard Edition Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-02698) = £0.00
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £119.99
• 1 x Seasonic VERTEX GX-750 750W 80 Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-SSC-01270) = £129.95
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02665) = £29.98

Total: £1,414.88 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Willowbark]

Thanks freddie64. I'm looking into AMD, but agree a 4070 Super may be a good choice. I'm finding the graphics card forum useful reading, especially the *** GPU Hierarchy *** thread.