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that looks pathetic compaired to the 25 pound pie.
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Well I've given one possibility of having a 'file' on the USB mass storage which is actually a stream of the device's video output like you can do with VLC, we'll see I guess.
Why?
Have you seen the difference in internals, as well as pi can't run android, can't run Netflix on any OS you install on PI and such like. It's a far more capable device.
People think the PI is all singing all dancing, but it isn't. It's not developed as a Media/HTPC device.
Well I've given one possibility of having a 'file' on the USB mass storage which is actually a stream of the device's video output like you can do with VLC, we'll see I guess.
That wasn't the issue, I just wanted confirmation, in case people brought it thinking it could run on anything and it didn't. Not an issue now as it clearly states on tv and other mass storage supported devices.
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It's the price I don't think it's worth £175.
For others it is. Remember these are same itpnternals as £300+ phones.
And has a much bigger range of uses unlike the limited use on PI, as PI is designed to be cheap and for kids to program on.
Where cotton candy is a fully fledged media device meant for the public.
A £25 tiny computer, very similar but far less powerful and far more restricted in capabilities. It's designed to be a cheap device for schools and other places, for kids to program on.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/
It'll support some people's needs, but many of us want more, like Netflix support.
People have already got Ubuntu running on it with XMBC playing 1080 files. YouTube it to see.
I know. That doesn't make it an HTPC. It can't run flash(not a big issue) but no support for Netflix is a big issue, for those of us who use it. Been following it closely and was going to get one as a stop gap, Till FXI confirmed q1 release. Cotton candy can also run any of the apps that android does. Which is a lot of stuff.
If all you want is to play ripped DVDs and nothing else R-PI is fine.
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The only reason that the Pi cant run android is because there are probably less than 50 people who currently own a pi (the 10 betas auctioned on ebay + some developer previews) and nobody has yet ported android. As soon as the new releases from yesterday start being shipped, i dont think it will be long before there is an android release for it.
As you have said yourself, the Cotton-Candy is specifically designed as a media centre, so i dont see how you can say it has a bigger range of uses?
The cotton candy has an ARM9 series cpu which, as you rightly point out, is used in many smartphones (including Samsung Galaxy S2 and iphone4). But the Raspberry pi uses an ARM11 series processor, which also is used in lots of smartphones (including many HTC's, most Nokias, Samsung Galaxy Ace, here is a list of smartphones powered by ARM11 series cpus)
I think you're right that the Cotton-Candy would make a better media centre than the Pi, but i cant see it being as popular. The Pi will be popular because it can be used as a media pc and is very cheap. If you want to spend more to get a better solution, why stop at the Cotton-Candy? Spend a bit more and get a full-blown HTPC
got one, cotton candy is replacing the monstrosity.
Even if android is ported, from what I've read on R-PI forum, which they've taken down ATM. It still won't support a lot. Partly due to rubbishy CPU and partly as they need licenseS that they need to enable the hardware. As its not designed for that purpose and it's a cheap charity. They won't be buying or enabling these. It will still be pretty useless as HTPC, unless you only use it for no drm video files and mo3 playback. If you want anything more, it can't really handle it. It even struggles with browsing.
It's far more flexible due to power and license. You can still do everything R-PI can and more. As it runs Linux anyway.
Yes PI will be more suscsufull due to price point.
Anyway going a bit off topic. People can buy what they want.
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I honestly dont think the price is a problem, this thing can do what im already doing on a £300 htpc. Watching videos, browsing the internet and checking emails. But without the base taking up space on my desk.
Little bit more research and im sold.
Little bit more research and im sold.
They've also said come proper release September to Christmas. It'll be well under the $200 mark.
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Looks like a nice little gadget, though it does seem a little pointless if you already have a half-decent android phone capable of doing pretty much what it does via mhl anyway... I couldn't justify the 175 plus cost of microsd card when a 5-10 quid cable does the same job.
No, it cant. They do different things.
It is specifically designed as a media provider (which it will do better than the Pi).
The Pi is more general purpose and can be used for much more than the Cotton-candy.
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No it's not, I'm using it as a media provider. It also come with Ubuntu an can be used as a normal Linux PI. There is nothing special about R-PI other than cost. Anything you can do on R-PI you can do on this. There's nothing locking you into android.
What about plugging in a USB peripheral?
What about connecting it to my non-wireless network?
What about GPIO connections?
What if i want a seperate audio connection rather than using the hdmi?
The Cotton-Candy is designed specifically as a media provider, so it doesnt matter that it doesnt have any of these features, but you cant argue that it is an general-purpose as the Pi as well.
It has USB, so yes you can connect it to cabled network, USB peripherals, USB sound cards and the rest. You can also get USB to gpio as well. So it can do everything you listed. It's under half the size, so doesn't have space for all the connectors. But if you watch the video. You simply hook up a USB multi connector and you can plug loads into it.
The devices are pretty much identical, apart from the power and connectors. One has power, the other has connectors built in. You can't really add more power, you can add connectors.
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it says on their website that the USB is a male connection for power or connecting the device to a computer as a mass storage device?
Also, why do they say you need a wireless keyboard/mouse if it can take usb peripherals?
Periphals will depend on the OS. You'll have a lot more support from Linux OS. It's a full functioning USB Port as far as I'm aware as several videos have random stuff plugged in though a splitter.
Actually that might be why it says that as the old prototype version didn't have micro USB port.
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