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CPU ADVICE

Sylar2k20

Sylar2k20

Sylar2k20

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so with new arrow lake disastrous launch worth to change ryzen 7 7700 to 14700k ? or to wait 9800X3D ? but i want for gaming and streaming same time and some chrome tabs opened and other app open same time
 
i not tried yet this i not talk about games , i talk about stream, apps , many tabs in chrome opened if the cpu will be ok and not struggle when i play game and stream...etc
 
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what i read on benchmarks for gaming, streaming and opened many tabs and app opened same time need a cpu with multi core higher score .. and i see 7700 compared with 14700k its much better

?
 
because if i buy a 9000 series still need to change MB ... because has support only for 7000 series

i was deciding 9900X and 9800X3D , 9900X i know its better in multi tasking and below in gaming then 7800X3D wich its same price in my country, 14700K i saw its small behind in gaming and some titles 7800X3D its better .... i know its a hooter and old platform .... but i want a CPU to do both equally and i forgot to say i also need for video editing its my money not yours I specially collected money for this.... i want a advice what cpu its better than ryzen 7 7700 ,
 
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uscool said:
Incorrect, it will support 9000 series as well
Go check the motherboard manufacturer site of the model you have
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i was , not has support for 9000 series , also i read on reddit when many people has same MB and ask gigabyte support and say the my MB not has support for 9000 series because for PCB or something like that


www.gigabyte.com

B650 GAMING X AX (rev. 1.0/1.1/1.2) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...
www.gigabyte.com www.gigabyte.com

REV 1.2 i have
 
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Tetras said:
It depends on your specific usage, but usually a modern 8-core CPU like the 7700 is more than sufficient for this task, so long as you have enough RAM.

I can manage it fine on substantially less powerful CPUs (i.e. less than half the speed) than the one you own.


For gaming you're very unlikely to notice much difference between the 7700, 14700K or arrow lake CPUs. They're really in the same ballpark of gaming performance and you're sidegrading rather than upgrading to a new generation.

The 14700K does have higher multithread performance in heavily multithreaded tasks (as do the top-end arrow lake CPUs), but we're talking very demanding things that use your full CPU power, not just Cyberpunk and a few Chrome tabs.

The 7800X3D/9800X3D models are different, since in some games the cache is a huge advantage (especially at lower resolutions), but to me you're still within the same kind of FPS range (they're the same architecture after all), so unless you play a game that LOVES the cache and you're desperate for a bit more FPS, then no, I would not make this change. It also would not help you much with multithreading performance.
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i play games at 1440P and i saw in games 14700k its not so much behind .... with 7800X3D so i do not need especialy cpu only for games....

even i keep 7700 need change motherboard , because not have upcoming cpu support
 
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rev 1.2

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard...X-AX-rev-15#kf

AMD Socket AM5：Supports AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series Processors
  • Unparalleled Performance：Direct 8+2+1 Phases Digital VRM Solution

rev 1.5

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard...X-AX-rev-15#kf

AMD Socket AM5：Supports AMD Ryzen™ 7000/ Ryzen™ 8000/ Ryzen™ 9000 Series Processors
  • Unparalleled Performance：Direct 8+2+2 Phases Digital VRM Solution

SO dont have support for 9000 series, i just upgrades bios latest for X3D Turbo Mode because its say its also for 7000 series non X3D but i dont have that option

and if you see its about VRM differences
 
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because its same board with a little diferences at VRM , if you look at bios its same at rev 1.2 and rev 1.5 only copy paste , i dont have option X3D Turbo Mode in bios ....
 
check de bios for both revision if you see say same .... because its same board with little diferences at vrm and maybe other things too

i instaled latest bios and dont have option X3D Turbo Mode
 
you need to read more about it .... why on rev 1.5 say has support 9000 series and rev 1.2 dont support because its same board ... and BECAUSE DONT SUPPORT
 
Tetras said:
We are aware of what the specs say, but as has already been explained, they are NOT meaningful in most cases.

There are many, many examples where motherboards support new CPUs and do not have an updated spec page, and/or do not have an updated CPU support table.

There are also some rare instances where the specs are meaningful, but this is very uncommon.

What is always meaningful, is the BIOS update page and actual user experiences.
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you want a drawing to explain ????? why bother to put support 9000 series on rev 1.5 and not put support for 9000 series on rev 1.2 ??? its simple but what i see its hard to understand facts FACTS on theri website .... and SPECS are explain everything ....

i think i talk with a robot who repeating ..... what i say its clear need to change MB ... and i want to change gigabyte MB with their 70000 revision on MB i will switch on asrock or msi ....
 
uscool said:
product isn't sold anymore they haven't updated the CPU support list or product page it was done before the release of the 9000 series , this is where you and others are getting confused

But continue to support it with bios updates, it clearly stats rev 1.2 supports 9000 series in its bios page

Rev 1.2
Bios F32d
Checksum : CEDB
Update AMD AGESA 1.2.0.2a for next gen Ryzen X3D CPU performance optimized
Add X3D Turbo Mode support

If it isn't supported why have they released a bios for rev 1.2 that says it supports 9000 series?

What is AGESA 1.2.0.2a
AMD has released a new firmware update for the AM5 platform, aimed at its upcoming Ryzen 9000 CPUs armed with 3D-VCache technology. Harukaze5719 shared on X that AGESA ComboAM5 1.2.0.2a comes with performance optimizations for Ryzen 9000X3D chips.
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i dont risk to buy CPU and then dont work ......
 
sx_turbo said:
It's supposed to, In cpu intensive tasks the CPU boosts clocks as much as possible and holds a steady temp of 90 degrees.

Depends on the use case though.

The boost temp can be altered in the bios, you can limit it down to 80 degrees or less if you wanted
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But if do that decrease performance no ?
 
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