cpu and motherboard, maximum budget £200

i have a i7 and also a 4170, both play games very well.

so i will never knock AMD snips86x and will keep posting both depending on budget in question, AMD make good chip and offer good value.

i hope they stay afloat as it keeps intel prices lower as well, with out them in the market god knows how much more others would be paying now

far too many here are against AMD, seems if you like AMD your a fanboy, what ever that is, but if you like intel your,well cooler.

Advice is only an opinion, neither of you are right, same as neither of you are wrong.
 
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snips86x said:
I went with the 660 as it was a card which did the job and had PhysX. Bad experienced with AMD cards, haven't gone back since! It's a preference! Understand that!!!!!

I would also like to point out it's not about me, you've digressed, I've responded. You obviously don't understand the whole thing about 'preference'. Seeing the light, lol, that's my freight train heading in your direction!
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All I understand from your posts is that you are an AMD fanboy and don't understand how to balance a build.

If you wanted an Nvidia card, fair enough. PhysX is supported in Borderlands and Batman and a couple of other titles it's not really a great selling point of the card to be honest. CUDA has always been the jewel in the crown of nvidia and sadly the 600 series doesn't improve CUDA performance.

I've tried to save you £100 but as you are so clever. Add your second 660, do some benchmarks and take screenshots. Then strip down your rig, reassemble with this new mobo and run the same benchmarks. That £100 won't be wasted then as you can show other forum members what not to do and save their time and money ;)
 
honosuseri said:
All I understand from your posts is that you are an AMD fanboy and don't understand how to balance a build.

If you wanted an Nvidia card, fair enough. PhysX is supported in Borderlands and Batman and a couple of other titles it's not really a great selling point of the card to be honest. CUDA has always been the jewel in the crown of nvidia and sadly the 600 series doesn't improve CUDA performance.

I've tried to save you £100 but as you are so clever. Add your second 660, do some benchmarks and take screenshots. Then strip down your rig, reassemble with this new mobo and run the same benchmarks. That £100 won't be wasted then as you can show other forum members what not to do and save their time and money ;)
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I'm really interested in your views Hono and would like to continue this, but not sure this thread is the place. It would appear you have some good information, but don't agree in the way you are presenting it, like someone is stupid for going with AMD. Intel may be better, but AMD is cheap in comparison, and does what you want it too. I have some more questions for your, can you set private threads?
 
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I'm really interested in your views Hono and would like to continue this, but not sure this thread is the place. It would appear you have some good information, but don't agree in the way you are presenting it, like someone is stupid for going with AMD. Intel may be better, but AMD is cheap, and does what you want it too. I have some more questions for your, can you set private threads?
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Just start your own thread fella if you have questions. I'm not the be all and end all of advice by any means, there are plenty of helpful guys on here in the various sub sections of the forum. In time you will learn that some opinions are more "valid" than others.

I tend to "Doss" around in this General hardware section and help people do specs and walk people through the builds and/or diagnose faults (Apparently I'm quite good at it so I'm told). There is always a little wiggle room for variation in doing specs, I just get frustrated when people chip in and confuse the OPs.

If you watch that video (i know he waffles lol) but it does spell out why not to go AMD other than Llano/Trinity. You have already adopted the socket so you need to make the most of it, unless you want to sell it on and start again.

We are all here to help each other, I really didn't want you to spend out £100 on a new mobo and basically see naff all improvement for it after all that hard work earning the cash and redoing your build. I apologise if you found me offensive but my intentions are good I assure you :)
 
Bacon? said:
Are we permitted if he keeps arguing for AMD to point him in the direction of the guy who paid £900 on finance for a 4100 with a 560 TI 1GB ;) :p

And Snips what do you mean at the time it was AMD? We are no longer living in Athlon days.... Modern AMD CPU's are beaten by Intel CPU's for the majority of tasks.
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Oi! 4170* and 560Ti 2GB* Fella! and its already mostly paid off, leaving the rest for the duration for credit history, and thanks to this PC I can actually get a car on finance! A 2012 VW Polo R-Line 1.2Tsi 100bhp, £13,000 with 400Miles on it from a VW Dealership! Not bad at all for a first car!
 
okay thanks for the help everyone (even if a lot of it was just an argument :) )
In the end i have decided to go for the i5 3570k and an MSI Z77A-G45, i got both for £255 posted the i5 at £161.99 and the motherboard at £84.92 whcih i thought was a good deal

I didn't want to spend the extra but after reading through all the reviews and professional opinions the i5 seems to be the most certain chip when it comes to future gaming performance. And if not then i can save for an i7 whereas the amd is kind of a dead end as far as upgrades are concerned.

my next investment will probably be a 7870 or 7950, which i hope will be a less controversial debate :)

thanks for the help,
smithy
 
The i7 only adds hyperthreading so swapping out the i5K for the i7 is again false economy.

For gaming hyperthreading doesn't help, it does for video encoding but you would have to do a lot of it to see the benefit. With the i5K you can use software that supports quicksync or indeed more commonly use the dedicated GPU to "boost" these tasks so the loss of hyperthreading isn't the end of the world.
 
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