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johnlee19869

johnlee19869

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just bought amd 9700x and i will have it by next sunday the worry is that the main reason i have chosen the 9700x over the 7800x3d and the 9800x3d apart from the difference in price is the fact that i have heard various people in different websites complain that with their x3d cpu they have had stuttering and micro stuttering in their games and sometimes outside of games now this may be nothing to do with the cpu maybe its the gpu or drivers or some setting they need to change but i has put me off the x3d but i still have doubts maybe i should take the risk and get a x3d as this pc needs to last for a while as i will not be updating or replacing anytime soon but the thought of spending 2k on a pc and it having constant problems doesnt exactly fill me will happyness. dont worry this is just me having a rant.
 
I haven't had any microstuttering with my 7800X3D personally.

A lot of what is the right thing to do person by person is what you will be using the PC for and how long you plan to keep it before upgrading.
 
I don’t think the 9800x3d has these issues for sure, more likely some users - a lot of people are not fantastic at setting hardware, BIOS and software up we have to remember. I think the 9800x3d is pretty well recommended all over the place. We are assuming you have a very capable GPU also.

Don’t forget some games are also complete gardbage lol!
 
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While an older model, moving to a 5800X3D on AM4 was a huge improvement and quite literally resulted in the opposite of what you're stating. Mins and lows were drastically reduced in a lot of my games and as such made for a far smoother and more consistent experience.

I've never heard of anyone having the problems you're stating, is there an article or something you can quote or is this just random people on social media sites like Reddit? The majority of people aren't all that tech savvy, there could be a myriad of reasons as to why they're having problems.

If you start googling to find problems you're going to find them, and there's a lot of extremely vocal minorities out there.
 
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Gray2233 said:
I've never heard of anyone having the problems you're stating, is there an article or something you can quote or is this just random people on social media sites like Reddit? The majority of people aren't all that tech savvy, there could be a myriad of reasons as to why they're having problems.
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The sheer volume of X3D CPUs sold to high-FPS gamers is probably a factor, since stuttering is so widespread/so many different issues and they're likely to be using one of those CPUs with a high-end(ish) card.
 
Does make me wonder if by micro stutter they mean traversal stutter in unreal 5 games. To the op x3d are not prone to micro stutter any more than any other cpu. In my experience, it’s either misbehaving programs or USB devices. Do a clean install of windows, bios and chipset drivers. Wait for windows update to finish and you will
Be fine.
 
I have bought the 9700x for my first pc build. but i have delayed till 15th October so plenty of time to reconsider things, having second thought about it should i consider paying the extra and getting the 9800x3d, the main reason i sent for the 9700x is the difference in price(the 9800x3d is £160 more) but the difference in price is not that important if you factor in how long i hope it last in this machine but mainly because i saw somebody going on about stuttering on their 9900x3d and so i did the worst thing i could do and searched for stuttering and the 9800x3d and there were loads of people having problems and they seem to mainly be people with x3d cpu's, now i now there are many factors involved like drivers and bios settings and even mouse settings but it put me off and i wanted to take less risk in cost and stress so went for the cheaper possibility less risky option but now i have ordered it and have 1 week to think not sure. help please.
 
Reports of stuttering may have been around the multi CCD chips, the 7800/9800X3D are single CCD chips, but the 7900/7950/9900/9950X3D are all dual CCD chips where the X3D bit, the huge cache, is only on one of the two CCD's ...and if things aren't quite setup correctly in the OS and sometimes even when they are depending on what the rest of the system is doing you can end up in a situation where the none X3D CCD gets used by the game, this apparently can cause stutter, partly due to intra-CCD latency and partly because the speeds and cache sizes vary between them, now I have a 7900X3D myself and I haven't noticed this but mine is setup correctly from Bios to OS, this is important so the OS know's which of the chips 2 x CCD's has the 3D vcache on it.

For single CCD X3D chips, the 7800/9800X3D's ...nothing to worry about, this complication isn't a thing they are just awsome chips and you can get on with it and use them without worrying about this stuff ....but yea, maybe don't buy an Asrock motherboard right now with a 9000 series chip, again I have one but I am using a 7000 series chip and also I've done a number of other things that may or may not make a difference to that whole situation but I wont go into that here, but best not buy into it at all if you can avoid it now.
 
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Moeks said:
Reports of stuttering may have been around the multi CCD chips, the 7800/9800X3D are single CCD chips, but the 7900/7950/9900/9950X3D are all dual CCD chips where the X3D bit, the huge cache, is only on one of the two CCD's ...and if things aren't quite setup correctly in the OS and sometimes even when they are depending on what the rest of the system is doing you can end up in a situation where the none X3D CCD gets used by the game, this apparently can cause stutter, now I have a 7900X3D myself and I haven't noticed this but mine is setup correctly from Bios to OS, this is important so the OS know's which of the chips 2 CCD's has the 3D vcache on it.

For single CCD X3D chips, the 7800/9800X3D's ...nothing to worry about, this complication isn't a thing they are just awsome chips and you can get on with it and use them without worrying about this stuff ....but yea, maybe don't buy an Asrock motherboard right now with a 9000 series chip, again I have one but I am using a 7000 series chip and also I've done a number of other things that may or may not make a difference to that whole situation but I wont go into that here.
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Why can't games use both cores? In which case it's 16 cores? :confused:
 
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Why can't games use both cores? In which case it's 16 cores? :confused:
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Well theoretically they 'could' if they needed that many threads, I am not actually aware of a game that could make use of that though really, 8 cores is about as much as any game I have seen can use and most less in all honesty, quite a lot of games still rely heavily on just a couple of threads, the performance will be better if only the CCD, so set of cores with the 3D vcache on it is used and there is no switching of the game threads from cores that have it to cores that don't.

How many cores a game can use is more of a limitation of the game than these CPU's. It will only completely and utterly stop it if you actually disable the cores on the other CCD entirely in the Bios (I think you can do it with Ryzen Master aswell) ... without going to that extreme, typically they will still be used if the system feels it needs them but it should, if setup correctly, use them for things it needs to do that are not your game, it should try and focus the game on the X3D cores.
 
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Moeks said:
Well theoretically they 'could' if they needed that many threads, I am not actually aware of a game that could make use of that though really, 8 cores is about as much as any game I have seen can use and most less in all honesty, quite a lot of games still rely heavily on just a couple of threads, the performance will be better if only the CCD, so set of cores with the 3D vcache on it is used and there is no switching of the game threads from cores that have it to cores that don't.

How many cores a game can use is more of a limitation of the game than these CPU's.
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well why can't they do like Intel the X3D is the performance cores and non X3D is the eco cores (or shift non X3d to windows processes)
 
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well why can't they do like Intel the X3D is the performance cores and non X3D is the eco cores (or shift non X3d to windows processes)
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They 'sort' of do, that's what the XBox Game Bar, the AMD driver and the motherboard allowing the OS to make the decision all contribute towards, it's just in the case of AMD, the X3D cores are generally only considered 'performance' cores for games, as the none X3D cores actually have a higher clock speed so outside of scenarios where a big cache helps, they are the faster and therefore 'performance' cores. This is why I say the correct bios and OS setup is important to get the best out of these as if you just throw it all together and press go ...you might find it doesn't behave as you would like. This and cost and need are also reasosn why the single CCD chips are heavily recommended for gaming, dual CCD X3D chips are generally less favoured for gaming because of these reasons, they are chips you buy if you want/need more than 8 cores but also want X3D levels of gaming performance, but your need for more than 8 cores, wont likely be gaming.
 
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No micro stutter here on a 7800x3d, currently on the igpu either, I'd love a link to wherever on the web that is stating the x3d chips are stuttering!
 
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