CPU Cooler can't decide

steve208 said:
Will prob go for artic pro 7 due to price
Don't do that, you may as well throw £15 in the bin. By the time u paid for the ACF7Pro and a seperate fan-controller your in spitting distance of a 'decent' HSF price range.

Honestly I have used quite a few different HSF's and in my experience the ACF7Pro does not do the job properly and when its left to run at max its sounds like a hoover-craft.

You have been warned lol! :p
 
Big.Wayne said:
run at max its sounds like a hoover-craft.

You have been warned lol! :p

Steve208 may live next to an airport, in which case a hover-craft will be a nice distraction.

In all honesty spend some more bucks, it'll be worth it.
 
Big.Wayne said:
Don't do that, you may as well throw £15 in the bin. By the time u paid for the ACF7Pro and a seperate fan-controller your in spitting distance of a 'decent' HSF price range.

Honestly I have used quite a few different HSF's and in my experience the ACF7Pro does not do the job properly and when its left to run at max its sounds like a hoover-craft.

You have been warned lol! :p

I have to agree with Big.Wayne. If you're worried about the AC Freezer 7 Pro being a bit noisy - don't buy it with a fan controller! By turning it down you defeat the whole object of the thing. It already has automatic fan control so if you overclock massively it will increase fan speed to keep the CPU cool. If you then manually turn it down you'll only end up overheating the CPU and then you'll be swearing and shouting that the AC Freezer 7 is no good. It is, it's just not as quiet as you might want.

Big.Wayne's suggestion of the Thermalright Ultra 120 is almost certainly the very best LGA775 CPU cooler on the market and when you get it you'll appreciate where your money went. It's so big you can use a slow-moving fan with it and still get decent temperatures, but nothing good is ever cheap and by compromising your cooling you are totally blowing any chance of getting a better than average overclock.

Big clocks need bigger than stock voltages. Bigger than stock voltages generate big heat loads. Ergo - Big Overclock:=Big Cooler. And from that you can deduce Big Quiet Overclock:=Bigger Cooler with Quiet Fan.

So - decent cooling, but a bit noisy:=AC Freezer 7 Pro
Decent cooling, extremely quiet:=Thermalright Ultra 120 with quiet fan eg. Noctua S12.
 
Big.Wayne said:
Don't do that, you may as well throw £15 in the bin. By the time u paid for the ACF7Pro and a seperate fan-controller your in spitting distance of a 'decent' HSF price range.

Honestly I have used quite a few different HSF's and in my experience the ACF7Pro does not do the job properly and when its left to run at max its sounds like a hoover-craft.

You have been warned lol! :p

Wrong. I havnt seen him say he is going to overclock - and a ACF7Pro is more than sufficiant enough to cool an E6600. And even for overclocking its a decent fan.
 
jongeeone said:
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If we were talking about a price difference of say £50 vs £100 then I see the sense in the cost savings, but when comparing a heatsink that costs £16 vs a quality heatsink that costs £32 I don't think the cost saving aspect is as relevant. The Push-pin mounting system on the Freezer 7 Pro is vastly inferior to the simple screw down method of the thermalright heatsink, that alone is worth the premium. You really can't compare the two but sadly until you owned a quailty heatsink you will not understand.

ACF7Pro owners will always rally to its defence! :rolleyes: at the end of the day its your choice but I wouldn't wish the hassle I had with mine on anyone and I still reckon you could make a better heatsink from a crushed coke! :D

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He hasnt said he is going to overclock - and tbh the thermalright would be an overkill? And if your finding push pins hard to use i think there may be somthing wrong.
 
I am looking to oc eventually

Yer your prob right re pro 7 n controller, changing my mind more times than i change my underwear, so now what, well looking at size n weight am now leaning towards the scythe ninja bit smaller than tuniq n ultra 120 n has had some good compliments.
 
There a CPU cooler review in this months Customs PC, with temp reduction comparisons. Worth a browse at your news agents.
 
The Ninja looks good but I hazzard a guess its tricky to fit, also its not compatible with every motherboard as its so 'squat', you may have to bend capacitors out the way, not idea. Next up is the Tuniq Tower very much loved here but perhaps a little too big (if u have a big case or removable mobo tray then ok) The Tuniq has a slight edge over over cooling solutions if your gonna use it totally 'passive'.

Lastly the Thermalright Ultra 120 is easy to fit, has no compatibility issues and leave u free to choose your own fan, I can't fault it :cool:
 
Yep agree with most of your post, the tuniq does look a monster the ninja, scythe has a good web site that has a mb compatability checker and my mb the abit ab9 can accomodate it even has a pic of it in situ as for fitting the rev b comes with a bracket so you don't have to rmove your mb, the thermalright again a monster, steering towards the ninja
 
I was originally going for an Ultra-120 but last minute changed it to the Noctua NH-U12F because it was un-rated on these forums and other places and I heard some good reports of it from other sources. My first option would be the Noctua NH-U12F and then the Thermalright Ultra-120. There isn't much in performance between the big-riser type coolers. :)
 
can you post screens of your temps with orthos running and lets settle this
best cooler debate i'm sure the tuniq is the best quite frankly i don't believe
your getting 46c full orthos load on anything but the tuniq.
 
Hey guys,

running spec in my sig, E6600 on a DS3, all stock for now. Thinking about buying an Ultra-120 from OCUK,but a few small niggles:

1) Will it fit my Antec P160, the 160 mm will fit inside the case no problem, but im wondering are there any other clearance issues that other P160 owners may have noticed.

2) Some customer review here said that if you own a gigabyte board, you need a metal backing plate not sold with the cooler. Is this for LGA775 boards? Have you guys had to purchase a separate plate?

3) I've noticed those annoying "push-pins" with the stock cooler are causing some minor warping of my board, really grinds my gears, will the weight of the Ultra cause any bending issues?
 
To answer your questions Mansize_tissue:

Yes you can use two fans on the Ultra 120 though i don't think it comes with enough retention clips to do it properly see here: http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/thermalright_ultra_120/ for details (they used a rubber band) Tis a very good review of the 120.
That review also contains a list of all the kit which comes with the cooler including backplates.

OSB
 
Dirkvoodoo said:
1) Will it fit my Antec P160, the 160 mm will fit inside the case no problem, but im wondering are there any other clearance issues that other P160 owners may have noticed
I don't think there would be any issues, I've done a build with that case and I wouldn't say its cramped at all + you got the removable mobo tray to make installation easier.

Dirkvoodoo said:
2) Some customer review here said that if you own a gigabyte board, you need a metal backing plate not sold with the cooler. Is this for LGA775 boards? Have you guys had to purchase a separate plate?
The Ultra 120 comes with its own backing plate for use with a LGA775 board. For mounting to an AMD system your meant to use the backing plate that comes with the mobo (which should be metal) but on some boards (Gigabyte etc) they are plastic and most likely not strong enough to support the heatsink properly?

Dirkvoodoo said:
3) I've noticed those annoying "push-pins" with the stock cooler are causing some minor warping of my board, really grinds my gears, will the weight of the Ultra cause any bending issues?
The Ultra 120 doesn't seem to be that heavy to me, maybe because its so lanky, I think most of the strain would be absorbed by the metal back-plate which this heatsink screws into.

I'm one of the people that are not keen on the stock LGA775 pushpins mounting system, I had to have a heatsink that bypassed that method of attaching the heatsink.

Some people install their heatsink once and then leave it for years, others may swap out CPU's more often, I fall into to the latter catagory so I really appreciate the 'ease' of installation the Ultra-120 offers, the bulk of it is quite elavated so there is little chance that anything close to the CPU socket will snag or get in the way, you literally just pop the heatsink straight on top of the CPU and then attach four screws using your fingers, its so easy :)
 
Dirkvoodoo said:
1) Will it fit my Antec P160, the 160 mm will fit inside the case no problem, but im wondering are there any other clearance issues that other P160 owners may have noticed.

All motherboards are different. Just because it fits for one P160 owner doesn't mean it will fit for you. I'm pretty certain it will though.

Dirkvoodoo said:
2) Some customer review here said that if you own a gigabyte board, you need a metal backing plate not sold with the cooler. Is this for LGA775 boards? Have you guys had to purchase a separate plate?

The Ultra 120 comes with what is quite possibly the best mounting mechanism for LGA775 motherboards yet devised. You don't need to buy anything. I do wonder where those reviews come from sometimes. Some of them are complete nonsense.

Dirkvoodoo said:
3) I've noticed those annoying "push-pins" with the stock cooler are causing some minor warping of my board, really grinds my gears, will the weight of the Ultra cause any bending issues?

You will have to remove the motherboard to fit the Ultra 120. The mounting mechanism is incredibly cunning though. The only area that contacts the motherboard is a small square of open metal directly under the CPU socket. The arms of the cooler retention mechanism are then bent back from this by a tiny amount and the female screw-down fittings then poke up through the motherboard mounting holes. You then screw the male fittings down into those holes with tensioned springs. This means four things;

1. The CPU cooler screws down into the mounting bracket and all the tension is at that open square under the CPU - exactly where you want it to get optimal CPU/Cooler contact.

2. As the arms of the CPU holder don't touch the motherboard and the Cooler screws into the CPU holder, the motherboard CANNOT bend.

3. As the spring tension has been properly calibrated by Thermalright, and the threads are just the right length, you just screw the threads down until they are tight. There is no requirement to 'feel' the pressure or balance up the corners. You just screw it down and it's perfect. Every time.

4. Because of the construction of the CPU retention back-plate the female threaded mounts cannot fall down through the holes in the motherboard if you dismount the cooler with the motherboard in the case. This means you can remove the CPU cooler if you need to, without having to remove the motherboard.

I really do take my hat off to Thermalright for the way this CPU retention mechanism is designed. It's the first properly engineered solution I've seen, and it's a joy to use.

Additional fan brackets are available for about £1.50 from Thermalright dealers that stock the full range of Thermalright parts (Overclockers don't) and I would strongly advise you to contact a proper Thermalright dealer for advice on fitting etc. as OcUK are great if you know what you want, but they're a bit short of actual shop support. They'll send you here and we can't tell you where to buy the right bit of kit because it's an OcUK competitor but OcUK refuse to stock the whole range becasue it's not profitable to carry so many slow-moving parts in stock. Catch 22.
 
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