CPU cooler essential before even minor OCing of E6600??
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Heh. You're putting me to shame. Cheers for posting that though - it gives me something to aim for. So basically you mean, have more space in front of the intake? I'm not sure what you mean by positive airflow.
Not sure where to start on my messy case. But I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Might just post a pic or two - that's sure to give you nightmares.
If you have more air being pushed in than being sucked out then you have greater air pressure within the case which helps cooling.
So adding another intake fan could help drop your temps.
If its not too late on the new cooler side of things I suggest these -
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-017-AR&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-038-ZA&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395
Both good coolers for the money.
So adding another intake fan could help drop your temps.
If its not too late on the new cooler side of things I suggest these -
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-017-AR&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-038-ZA&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395
Both good coolers for the money.
Cheers for that.
Nah, nah. I'm not playing that game heh. I'll stick with what I have - I've no real need for OCing my processor. I just figured some extra performance for just over a tenner had to be worth having.
Having said that, I'll keep in mind for future builds that it really is worthwhile getting a top notch cooler.
Well i had a bosh at the cable management (I also cleared a lot more dust, resorting to just blowing at times, which didn't do me a great deal of good).
Also along the way its occured to me that I really don't need the floppy disk drive and I haven't yet used the card reader. So I might take those out, but I don't have the plate to cover up the hole with...
I didn't build this PC (didn't have anything like enough know-how at the time of purchase) which doesn't help. I get the feeling to get things looking anything like tidy I'd have to take everything out and start over.
Still there's been a very slight improvement. Here's a Before and After:
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There was a slight mishap along the way:
But I understand that yellow wire simply reports the RPM from the fan to the MB. BTW there are actually two fans
. This one (just underneath the power supply) and another at the bottom on the front.
Also (and completely off-topic) can anyone tell me whether or not it matters that I haven't got all four connectors from my 260GTX hooked up to the power supply.
Cheers.
Also along the way its occured to me that I really don't need the floppy disk drive and I haven't yet used the card reader. So I might take those out, but I don't have the plate to cover up the hole with...
I didn't build this PC (didn't have anything like enough know-how at the time of purchase) which doesn't help. I get the feeling to get things looking anything like tidy I'd have to take everything out and start over.
Still there's been a very slight improvement. Here's a Before and After:
There was a slight mishap along the way
:
But I understand that yellow wire simply reports the RPM from the fan to the MB. BTW there are actually two fans
. This one (just underneath the power supply) and another at the bottom on the front.Also (and completely off-topic) can anyone tell me whether or not it matters that I haven't got all four connectors from my 260GTX hooked up to the power supply.
Cheers.
That is a slight improvement. Its hard to tell how obstructed the air flow will be without knowing where your case fans are and how deep in the case the cables are.
Rebuilding the PC is the best way to sort the cables out, and a modular PSU helps out a lot.
You need to rotate your CPU cooler 90degrees anticlockwise so that it is sucking in from the front of the case and blowing directly to the exhaust fan.
I am pretty certain that you GPU would tell you if it was not recieving enough power.
Rebuilding the PC is the best way to sort the cables out, and a modular PSU helps out a lot.
You need to rotate your CPU cooler 90degrees anticlockwise so that it is sucking in from the front of the case and blowing directly to the exhaust fan.
I am pretty certain that you GPU would tell you if it was not recieving enough power.
Just re-read this, when installing thermal paste you simply want to seal any gaps inbetween the processor and the heatsink; you do not want to put a thick layer seperating the two.
This is all thats needed -
second picture is the paste after a few heat cycles (full load to idle to full etc) so it has spread out properly.
Its also worth saying that keeping old thermal paste on there after youve removed the heatsink isnt a great idea, clean it off gently and reinstall.
I don't think mine is modular (its a Thermaltake Toughpower 550W). At least I can't find anywhere to say that it is. As far as I understand that simply means you only insert the cables you require. I could be completely wrong on that score though.
I got the impression it could only be fitted with the fan facing up or down, because the holes in the motherboard seemed to be rectangular. Once again I could easily be wrong. I'll have to look into that. I'd have to buy some thermal paste in that case as the cooler came with paste already applied. Also I can't say I'm keen to try and install it all over again! I wish you were around beforehand
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I'm thinking that as it stands there isn't a great deal of room for OCing. I just read (once again on the mighty internets) that keeping 30C+ from tjmax at stress (I'm using Prime95 btw - although may be I could just go by the most stress I'm likely to put the CPU under) is advisable.
If I go by Coretemp's judgement of tjmax (85C) that means I shouldn't OC at all!
What are folks thoughts on this? I get the impression its a personal thing really. I don't want to blow my processor. But if I did it wouldn't be the end of the world. So I'm thinking I should just go for it and attempt a little OCing
.A modular PSU just means u can add/remove power cables as required instead of having spare ones cluttering up ur case.
Judging from that annotated pic I would say your GPU is getting the majority of your fresh air and exhausting it itself stopping the CPU getting much cool air.
If your case allows then add another fan on the front or side pannel to help the CPU out.
Ive never seen an LGA775 with rectangular heatsink holes before, I would be surprised If you couldnt mount it correctly.
As for the overclock, If you really want to give it a go then do it, but pay close attention to those temps. If u get uncomfortable with them set everything back to normal and work on the cooling.
Judging from that annotated pic I would say your GPU is getting the majority of your fresh air and exhausting it itself stopping the CPU getting much cool air.
If your case allows then add another fan on the front or side pannel to help the CPU out.
Ive never seen an LGA775 with rectangular heatsink holes before, I would be surprised If you couldnt mount it correctly.
As for the overclock, If you really want to give it a go then do it, but pay close attention to those temps. If u get uncomfortable with them set everything back to normal and work on the cooling.
A stupid thought I'm sure. But the thermal compound will have dried since yesterday won't it? That is to say, there's no way I could re-position it without getting some new thermal paste is there?
A stupid thought I'm sure. But the thermal compound will have dried since yesterday won't it? That is to say, there's no way I could re-position it without getting some new thermal paste is there?
I guess it depends on the compound, Ive done it before but the stuff i use doesnt really set.
I wouldnt worry about it too much, but if it does go wrong its best to have some ready to replace - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=AC-000-AC&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=27 best stuff ive used.
Having checked the reviews I'm convinced. I get the impression the choice of thermal paste is almost important as the cooler itself.Putting this stuff on and seating it correctly should slash quite a few degrees. Quick question though: I'm only going to use this stuff very occasionally so it should last me a good while (i.e. years) but does it dry out over time? Thanks again BIGBC, you've been a fantastic help and its really appreciated.
Im not sure wether it dries up or decays, never left it for that long lol. I wouldnt have thought it would though as long as you dont leave any air pockets inside and keep the cap on nice and tight.
Its worth double checking if you can rotate the heatsink too while your at it =]
Its worth double checking if you can rotate the heatsink too while your at it =]
Well I ordered the Artic Silver 5 and applied it as instructed. Though there was a slight blob at the end (I should have used a piece of card to make a clean finish - if you see what I mean). I also had to remove the fan once to re-seat it - messing up the compound more no doubt. Even then I didn't seat it properly. The PC shut down on startup - I'm assuming because of over-heating. Anyway, I eventually got it right I hope - though the connectors that go through the hole on the MB are pretty knackered now and I wonder if its possible to get it seated properly any more.
Now its booted up OK but I would say if anything the temperatures are very slightly higher than before. Though I find it hard to analyse this properly (i.e. take readings truly scientifically)... Its more like 45 at idle and 65 under stress now. What's more the fan seems to be more noisy than before - would that be because its having to run at a greater RPM to keep cool? Ugh. I'm a little ****ed off.
I'm gonna have to do this again. But every time, these connector thingys (the two prongs that go through the mobo) are getting more damaged.
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Well, rightly or wrongly I've toned the fan speed down using speedfan (I'm keeping a close eye on my CPU temp in Realtemp and with the fan at 63% its keeping to a safe but disappointing 50C).
Now its booted up OK but I would say if anything the temperatures are very slightly higher than before. Though I find it hard to analyse this properly (i.e. take readings truly scientifically)... Its more like 45 at idle and 65 under stress now. What's more the fan seems to be more noisy than before - would that be because its having to run at a greater RPM to keep cool? Ugh. I'm a little ****ed off.
I'm gonna have to do this again. But every time, these connector thingys (the two prongs that go through the mobo) are getting more damaged.
EDIT:
Well, rightly or wrongly I've toned the fan speed down using speedfan (I'm keeping a close eye on my CPU temp in Realtemp and with the fan at 63% its keeping to a safe but disappointing 50C).
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