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CPU guide for newbies

I would add TDP (Thermal design power) to the list above.

It's a measurement of maximum heat generated that needs to be dissipated by the cooler.

lower tdp would mean less heat generated and therefore less noise made by cpu cooler as the fans would not need to rotate as fast to keep it at a safe temperature.
 
I am assuming the Oracle chip is for some specific application, like servers or similar?

so is there a way to calculate what size cooler you need for the microprocessor? also I assume the design of the cooler will be important as well as the size to be aable to fit it in the case?
 
so is there a way to calculate what size cooler you need for the microprocessor? also I assume the design of the cooler will be important as well as the size to be aable to fit it in the case?

There should be a TDP rating somewhere on the box or in user manuals, developers have them listed too, Intel's ARK for example.

Some cooler makers tell you how many watts their coolers can dissipate, stock cooler will nearly always be enough for a user who never overclocks. If one decides to overclock, he should buy aftermarket cooler, something like a 212 Evo is pretty popular, cheap and effective.

The big air coolers are about as effective as cheaper AIO units. Some, like Noctua's NDH-15 I think it's called , £70 or so air cooler usually beats similarly priced AIOs (it's heavy too). Air coolers are more reliable too, the only part that can break are the fans, while AIOs and CLLs (custom liquid loops) have way more ways to make your wallet cry.

Generally, the bigger the heatsink, the more TDP cooler can dissipate. If you think air cooler might not be enough, an AIO might do you good without breaking the bank completely. Cost about £50-£150 depending on quality and size. The general recommendation is 120mm rad space for each 100W of heat recommended at least, as in 240mm of rad space for up to 200W. Probably the most frequent problem are pump failures and pump noise on AIOs.

Next Step is Custom Loop. It's like AIOs, but look better (IMO) and are more effective than AIO, however, with enough parts in the loop you can easily be out of £500 or more money. The 120mm for up to 100W remains.


To answer the size question.

Air coolers will have to fit in the case, it's THE limiting factor of what kind of cooler you can fit onto your CPU. RAM clearance is important too, some air coolers are so big they can bend taller RAM sticks. AIO has the block and pump in one (hence AIO - all in one) and it fits in any case that has space for at least one 120mm fan/rad that's not too far from the cpu. Custom loops don't need even that, they just need space for rads and pump somewhere in the case.

Cooling sub-section will have more in-depth answers :)
 
Thanks for the clarification on the cooling system, now I do not know if there is anything further to add here. I believe we have covered the basics although please keep updating this thread if you feel we have overlooked anything. I believe that now comes the difficult part to start deciding which cpu to buy.
 
Thanks for the clarification on the cooling system, now I do not know if there is anything further to add here. I believe we have covered the basics although please keep updating this thread if you feel we have overlooked anything. I believe that now comes the difficult part to start deciding which cpu to buy.

Let us know what you need it to do, your budget, and we'll try and help.
 
Well I am basically trying to build a decent machine for gaming and streaming, in the near future. In terms of budget I am flexible, I am not entirely sure I want to go for really top tier components, but I am more interested in durability and reliability. I am currently saving for this endeavour, so I am also a bit flexible to wait if there is a major change that would affect prices or performance. Hope this gives a bit of a guideline.
 
It might be good, just for the interest of this thread, to post some example builds, focusing on the processor and why you chose it. Just because you all probably have gone through a similar process that a person such as myself is going through and have taken things into consideration such as price vs performance/longevity of the technology chosen. Also, is there a comparison between the various CPUS and chipsets somewhere in the forum?, have not been able to find any.
 
VERY generally speaking:

i3 for general day to day, word processing, watching videos etc
i5 for more intensive stuff like gaming
i7 for amateur video/3d/design stuff
Xeon for servers

Sounds like you probably would do well with an i5 CPU.

I'm sure someone else can impart more knowledge than I can.
 
Hi guys I am thinking about buying the i5-6600K-3.9GHz processor.

From what you've said is quite a good processor that I think will cover my gaming needs, do you think there is something better as in same price range, but better suited for my needs?

Also do you guys have any preference on motherboards to be related to this CPU?, I know this question might need to get moved to the motherboards section, but any personal experience or guideline would be nice to have.


https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ga1151-processor-retail-cp-579-in.html#awards
 
Since it is a -K cpu, definitely get a Z170 motherboard, something like a Gigabyte Sniper for example. Do not forget a cooler, since -Ks come without one.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £589.65
(includes shipping: £11.70)
 
It's a good choice, if you get a Z170 based motherboard you'll be able to overclock it as well.

It depends on what you're looking for, eg how many USB ports, PCIe slots (for things like GPUs), and mainly full sized ATX or the smaller mATX.
 
do you believe for gaming and ocasional streaming this would be good enough, I am trying to learn as much as I can to make educated choices. First off the motherboard and CPU, then memory, graphics, drives, PSU. I am a bit lost when it comes to motherboards and ram memory, specially because I have seen many knowledgeable people around the forum really customizing their setup, want to achieve something that is optimum even if it means paying a it more.
 
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