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CPU naming moan

It doesn't look good for marketing if AMD is releasing 7th gen while Intel is releasing 14th gen. I think AMD is just going to move rapidly through the generation numbers until they're level with Intel's naming scheme. I don't have a problem with doing this, it makes sense.

Microsoft did exactly the same - Apple Mac X had been out for over a decade when Microsoft skipped Windows 9 and released Windows 10 so the Apple/Microsoft version numbers were in parity. I think Microsoft announced that Windows 10 is the last version because they thought that's what Apple were doing. However, Apple released Mac OS 11 in 2020 so Microsoft followed by releasing Windows 11 in 2021. Since then, Apple has been increasing the version numbers at a much faster rate and is currently on version 14. This can't be a coincidence.

My biggest complaint is Nvidia's naming scheme. How is the uninformed buyer supposed to know that a Ti is better than a super? It makes no sense. Why didn't they name it 2085 instead of 2080Ti? 2083 instead of 2080 Super? 4075 instead of 4070 Ti? 4078 instead of 4070 Ti Super?
 
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"Black Edition" > "X"

It doesn't look good for marketing if AMD is releasing 7th gen while Intel is releasing 14th gen. I think AMD is just going to move rapidly through the generation numbers until they're level with Intel's naming scheme. I don't have a problem with doing this, it makes sense.

Microsoft did exactly the same - Apple Mac X had been out for over a decade when Microsoft skipped Windows 9 and released Windows 10 so the Apple/Microsoft version numbers were in parity. I think Microsoft announced that Windows 10 is the last version because they thought that's what Apple were doing. However, Apple released Mac OS 11 in 2020 so Microsoft followed by releasing Windows 11 in 2021. Since then, Apple has been increasing the version numbers at a much faster rate and is currently on version 14. This can't be a coincidence.

My biggest complaint is Nvidia's naming scheme. How is the uninformed buyer supposed to know that a Ti is better than a super? It makes no sense. Why didn't they name it 2085 instead of 2080Ti? 2083 instead of 2080 Super? 4075 instead of 4070 Ti? 4078 instead of 4070 Ti Super?
No it's stupid trying to 'keep up with' your competitor. Everyone was anticipating XBOX 720,but no we can't have that, because it implies 720p. So they made it even more dumb and called it XBOX ONE. Just name your product whatever you want. Or what the 'fans' want.
 
Stupidly long names with lots of numbers and letters in them doesn't bother me, i find them some what amusing. I really do want to own a product with 5 X's in the name just because of the ridiculousness of it, and they do exist.


I agree with @ooStevo but for different reasons, when they give a GPU with less VRam the same name with the exception of denoting it a lesser VRam model in that name, cite GTX 1060 3GB and RTX 3050 6GB, to a layman they look like the same GPU but with less VRam, they are not, both those GPU's have less shaders than their higher VRam name sake, they also have lower clocks and a lower power limit so you can't even clock them to the same level.

They are a slower' lesser GPU, but Nvidia know a layman will see them as the same, they have the same name, that to me is rather cynical, it shows what they think about their customers.
 
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It’s not especially hard to follow if you keep your finger on the pulse. All of this together makes it really annoying to dip in and out of the hardware game once it comes around to upgrade time. Even if you know tech in general, you have to spend a few minutes trying to decode what is going on.
 
Stupidly long names with lots of numbers and letters in them doesn't bother me, i find them some what amusing. I really do want to own a product with 5 X's in the name just because of the ridiculousness of it, and they do exist.


I agree with @ooStevo but for different reasons, when they give a GPU with less VRam the same name with the exception of denoting it a lesser VRam model in that name, cite GTX 1060 3GB and RTX 3050 6GB, to a layman they look like the same GPU but with less VRam, they are not, both those GPU's have less shaders than their higher VRam name sake, they also have lower clocks and a lower power limit so you can't even clock them to the same level.

They are a slower' lesser GPU, but Nvidia know a layman will see them as the same, they have the same name, that to me is rather cynical, it shows what they think about their customers.
Thanks for agreeing with me, that's a revelation on her lol. As for the rest of your post, I'm well on my way to visit Oliver twist so I'll disect it tomorrow....... Maybe :p Goodnight and God bless.

*On her. Lol.
 
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My biggest complaint is Nvidia's naming scheme. How is the uninformed buyer supposed to know that a Ti is better than a super? It makes no sense. Why didn't they name it 2085 instead of 2080Ti? 2083 instead of 2080 Super? 4075 instead of 4070 Ti? 4078 instead of 4070 Ti Super?
Titanium should be better than just something being Super, but then Superman isn't made of Titanium? So who knows? Maybe there's a low key Titanium Superman on Krpton? Or maybe the S symbol for hope on his chest is secretly made of Titanium?
Mind blown.
 
Marketing matters, it's just annoying that companies don't always get it right. I have an irrational and inexplicable aversion to AMD products due to their naming conventions over the last 20-30 years.
 
Marketing matters, it's just annoying that companies don't always get it right. I have an irrational and inexplicable aversion to AMD products due to their naming conventions over the last 20-30 years.

I don’t think it’s been bad at all definitely much better than Intels product stacks.
 
Well I completely derailed this thread. Onto the next one I suppose. Until I get banned or something. I'm coming for you Members Marketplace! One shot and one post at a time!
 
I agree with @ooStevo but for different reasons, when they give a GPU with less VRam the same name with the exception of denoting it a lesser VRam model in that name, cite GTX 1060 3GB and RTX 3050 6GB, to a layman they look like the same GPU but with less VRam, they are not, both those GPU's have less shaders than their higher VRam name sake, they also have lower clocks and a lower power limit so you can't even clock them to the same level.

They are a slower' lesser GPU, but Nvidia know a layman will see them as the same, they have the same name, that to me is rather cynical, it shows what they think about their customers.

If we go back a bit further, there were other shenanigans too, like the 8600GT - 1024MB model had DDR2 but the 512 version was DDR3 and from memory was decidely faster for anything that was bandwidth sensitive!
(I think there were other similar examples as well but that's the one that sprang to my mind!)
 
Thing is, didn't the 8600GT specifically state "DDR2" for those that had it? I'm sure it was in the product name.
I think the main reason they do this nowadays, is due to the performance being good enough for people not to notice.

Take the "5700U" I have in a mini-PC, this should have been called a 4800+ if we're being generous. It was in a price bracket where it was too cheap to get on my high-horse and not buy though, so I'm part of the problem.
Seems silly to be annoyed by naming when most of us on here are doing more than enough product research, but where will this end? I don't want to have to look in to specifics on every part in the line-up.

As an extra part, I've actually just looked at the AMD site for my 5700U and the 5800U. The front page of the 5800U specifically states Zen3 as a feature, where-as the 5700U just doesn't mention anything. So it seems AMD are embarrassed, or at least trying to hide what they're doing? Meanwhile, Intel proudly state the 14th gen nature of their 13th gen parts... :D
 
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