CPU performance Spike/Lag/Choppy/Judder, help

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I am not sure if this is anything to do with my personal overclocking so thats the reason I posted this in this section, if its wrong section then could staff move it to where is better thanks, I doubt very much its got anything to do with OC'ing but hey, I dont know.

After getting this new system together Asus ROG MAXIMUS VIII IMPACT Z170 with Intel i7 6700K etc etc, I have noticed since day one there is some sort of issue I have never experienced before ever with older systems, hoping someone can help please ?

When just using as normal and moving the mouse about the screen, browsing the internet page to page etc etc etc, just general things (tried with hardwired and wireless mice, same issue).

I keep getting a performance spike and lag depending on what I click on or do but it happens with most things every few seconds or more depending on what your doing unless you leave the pc doing nothing, then it stays normal, you can hear the cpu fan rev up and back down too and thats the give away sign and then I look straight at task manager/performance tab at what the cpu has been up to in that second in time and yes it shoots right up the graph to maybe 75% usage just for that second or two, then the spike goes right back down again.

That would all be fine if that was all it done but its actually causing lag that makes the mouse choppy/stutter/judder, its very annoying as sometimes you can be dragging a file/folder or something over the screen and that happens and the mouse will drop it, plus the damn fan reving its blades up louder too.

Its as if the computer freezes just for that second then its fine again.

I have no idea at all what could be causing this, its a brand new setup with new windows 10 x64 install, only things plugged in are the mouse unifying receiver and a usb stick, thats all, this same thing has been happening since 1st day too (only the last week or so), I am totally lost, can anyone help please ?
 
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Is your cpu running full speed? Read before of boards having a switch so cpu only ran at 800mhz maxed out instead of 4ghz for example. If you download cpuz and Asus Real Bench you can confirm what frequency your cpu is running at.

I would also try malwarebytes, you may have a virus running in the background taking cpu resources.
 
Is your cpu running full speed? Read before of boards having a switch so cpu only ran at 800mhz maxed out instead of 4ghz for example. If you download cpuz and Asus Real Bench you can confirm what frequency your cpu is running at.
I would also try malwarebytes, you may have a virus running in the background taking cpu resources.

screen shot of my pc running on idle using cpuz, plus I used malwarebytes to check for nasties too as it was already installed but it didnt find anything at all.

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Any errors in the event viewer? It sounds like a display driver issue, what graphics card do you have?

no errors mate no, brand new system and card etc, its a evga gtx 759Ti SC model.

I just used the new driver available today for that card that i seen was available and used the very latest DDU to uninstall the other driver etc, so i guess thats all looking ok.

just the problem i describe in the first post that i have the issue with.
 
If you run Asus Real Bench does your cpu run full speed?

Oh yes of course, well to be honest I aint tried the asus bench but have used several others and the usual thing happens with an overclocked cpu on an offset, the voltage/freq/speeds and fans too all zoom up and down according to the load amount.

Thats not a spike though, not like the spike I have already described mate.
 
Ok, tried the latest bios 1302 I think it is, didn't help one bit.

(see first post of the thread) , I still have some sort of Spike and Lag which appears to be the CPU according to task manager, its just like I spoke about earlier if people would read back please.

I really wouldn't care apart from the fact that its a real pain in the neck man, as described when I move the mouse about the screen and do different things and look at different things it then will throw up a spike and it actually is enough to stop the mouse moving or dragging/dropping stuff etc for a second then it clears and moves again freely and then it will just keep repeating like this unless I don't touch the screen or the mouse at all, that way the machine settles down as nothing is changing.

I can even see the circular mouse circle spinning busy Icon next to the cursor too when the spikes happen which usually means yes something is busy working in the background but far as I can see nothing is running.

I need help with this, I feel its got to be a setting in windows or something but its hard to say whats what at this point, but it is annoying the heck out me man (plus you can hear the cpu fan ramp up for a couple of seconds every time the spike occurs).

I really am at a loss with this one, its a first for me with a problem like this.

Would very much appreciate if anyone had ideas please ?

I have tried with and without wired/wireless mouse but makes no difference, I doubt its anything to do with the actual mouse or keyboard, plus nothing else is plugged into any usb ports either.

Asus ROG Impact VIII board with intel 6700K and windows 10 pro 64bit.

Possibly a windows problem or a bios problem ? I have no idea at all.?

Its driving me NUTS now :( :mad::mad::mad:
 
Could be a software issue. Have you tried a clean install of Windows? You could always try a live Linux CD to see if it misbehaves in that without wiping out Windows. Would pin it down to software or hardware.
 
Try and monitor your task bar? Ctrl alt del and just keep an eye on it, when it spikes you should be able to see what progra/task is causing it. I mean you say you see it spiking but dont think you mentioned if all the programs remain on a low usage % or if one shoots up

You probably have checked this, but this is all I can think outside of a faulty motherboard or a dodgy cpu, since all parts are new this is very unlikely.

I will speak to a friend though who unbelievers had a similar problem and I'll get back to you later on tonight.

Meanwhile good luck!
 
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Try and monitor your task bar? Ctrl alt del and just keep an eye on it, when it spikes you should be able to see what progra/task is causing it. I mean you say you see it spiking but dont think you mentioned if all the programs remain on a low usage % or if one shoots up

You probably have checked this, but this is all I can think outside of a faulty motherboard or a dodgy cpu, since all parts are new this is very unlikely.

I will speak to a friend though who unbelievers had a similar problem and I'll get back to you later on tonight.

Meanwhile good luck!

I have been trying mate but it seems impossible to do as each time it spikes the instant Lag freezes the mouse for like a second or two, so in turn that means maybe another second before I can click on task manager/taskbar and by that time the spike is showing in the graph chart table thing but I have no idea what caused it if that makes sense ?

When I say "a spike" I mean it can sometimes spike right up to maybe 50 to 75% on the chart and it says the spike is from the CPU, nothing else, strange, very strange, after that if I sit back a do nothing lets say watch a movies or something and I am not interacting with the pc then I really don't hear the spike kicking on and off, you see I can hear it too because it kicks up the speed of the cpu fan, know what I mean ??

I am confused with it totally :(
 
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are you using the stock intel cooler? those will ramp up in speed pretty quickly and are loud/more noticeable

tested with just one ram stick just to rule out any ram issue,also try with hyperthreading disabled in the bios and see if that reduces the spikes/freezing
 
are you using the stock intel cooler? those will ramp up in speed pretty quickly and are loud/more noticeable

tested with just one ram stick just to rule out any ram issue,also try with hyperthreading disabled in the bios and see if that reduces the spikes/freezing

Thanks mate,

not using stock fan no, its a corsair H80i GT sealed loop.

the noise doesn't/wouldn't bother me anyway, its the actual issue that is a real pain in the neck because of what I have previously described.

Can you tell me why I would want to disable hyperthreading ? or do you just mean to see if that fixes the issue ??

Even if that did fix it I am pretty sure hyper threading should be switched on, that's the point of having it as far as I know, but you may just mean to rule that out or in, please tell ?

Thanks.
 
It's entirely possible that your hardware is fine but Windows is broken in some way. Rule that out first by running a different operating system from a DVD. It's possible to run Windows this way but it's complicated and there are licensing issues. Easiest is run Ubuntu Linux from Live DVD. Instructions here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
If that works fine, chances are good that your issue is a software issue and a clean install of Windows and drivers will fix it.
 
Are you using Windows 10 ?

Have you installed any other programs around the time these issues started. Sounds like a software issue with win 10.

I had very similar issue when changing to Windows 10 when having core temp to start with Windows. Taking it off fixed the freezing.
 
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leave task manager open all the time on the processes tab and when it spikes look to see which one did it.
id be looking at start up items and hardware drivers/software, especially the software that gets installed with the mouse/keyboard.
also check you have the latest chipset, sata, lan drivers blah blah and that for ide/ata controllers that ultra dma 6 is enabled.
 
I had similar issues, FPS reducing over time in games and the PC stalling to almost uncontrollable. Mouse would freeze every few moments in desktop. Memory utilization was at 98%. Culprit was an old driver for Atheros Killer networking which had some sort of memory leak issue. Updated and all is now well.. could be driver related or something eating your memory?
 
I cant see it being the operating system, it could be though or simply a setting within Windows 10 Pro 64bit that is causing the problem.

I have just purchased my copy of this windows 10 a couple of weeks ago especially for this machine, I have had to reinstall it now about 10 times because of different reasons and I really don't want to have to yet again as it takes Hours and Hours for me to download all the latest windows 10 updates, installation only takes minutes, but updates take hours for me because I have slow internet.

So yes, its windows 10 pro x64, It was allegedly a clean untouched copy I got online and soon as I purchased my licence I was able to get all the updates and it updated its self to the very latest version which it says here is up to date, so at a guess I assume all that side of things must be ok.

zipp0r, you meantioned check for updated chipset drivers, I was thinking that too mate but for some reason Intel doesn't even have one for this board on their website and the only one you can use is direct from the ASUS website >>

Board >> https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/MAXIMUS-VIII-IMPACT/HelpDesk/

CPU >> http://ark.intel.com/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz

Also, how do I do this mate, I have forgot >> "ide/ata controllers that ultra dma 6 is enabled" ??

Thanks for everything that people are suggesting but it feels like a never ending story :(

McstylisT, what do you mean by "I had very similar issue when changing to Windows 10 when having core temp to start with Windows. Taking it off fixed the freezing." ?? and how would I try doing this mate ??

Cenedd, is there really much need for me to even try running Ubuntu mate ? as at the end of the day this is a brand new system and if something is wrong then it will be going the heck back to where it came from, lol

Anyway, this evening (just now) I just switched the pc on and BANG, instant HUGE 80% CPU spike and the lag the that comes with it, and its literally impossible to get into task manager within 1 second because of the lag and then by the next 2 seconds I do get in and yes it shows the giant spike but every single thing running in the background and the couple of apps running have all settled right down and the CPU is then running at 1% usage, you see now why its so difficult to nail this down ? :(

hmmmmmmmm, still at a total loss with this, I know there is no point in emailing a ticket to asus or intel as they are as useless as a horse with no legs with their joke of support they give. :(

I am quite firmly stuck with this for now at least, cant see a way round it unless one of you guys can help me some more please or anyone at all for that matter ?? Thanks.
 
I had similar issues, FPS reducing over time in games and the PC stalling to almost uncontrollable. Mouse would freeze every few moments in desktop. Memory utilization was at 98%. Culprit was an old driver for Atheros Killer networking which had some sort of memory leak issue. Updated and all is now well.. could be driver related or something eating your memory?

@Jinxter, ahhh, listen mate, it sounds exactly like that by the way, you have literally hit the nail on the head mate.

It starts soon as I switch the pc on and then anything from every few seconds to few minutes just depending on what I am doing on the pc, its just random, and then if I sit back (like now) and am just typing or reading on this website as example the spikes and lag don't happen hardly ever if at all, but I know for fact it will happen again when I start to go about things in a normal general use way, I wouldn't even dream of trying to play a game as it would be freezing so much it would be impossible like you say.

I heard things about adjust my screen to only output 59FPS rather than 60 and run off Vsync on my graphic card settings etc, tried that and no difference.

I have also been thinking about me keyboard and mouse which are both Logitech, the keyboard is the K750 and the mouse is the anywhere mouse MX, they are wireless and I tried with and without the lastest drivers etc and that didn't help either.

I tell ya all man, this is driving me totally bonkers :(
 
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