CPU upgrade (cooling question)

CrayzCrinkle

CrayzCrinkle

CrayzCrinkle

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Hello all! This christmas I'll be upgrading my 6 year old computer, and need a bit of advice. First off here is my current computer

AMD 1055T Processor,
Asus m4*something* motherboard.
16GB ram,
NVIDIA GTX460 GFX card.
750w PSU.

Now im sticking with AMD and am planning on keeping the PSU, RAM (upgraded to new sticks earlier this year), and the case. I'm planning to upgrade the graphics to a GTX 650 and get an AMD FX 9370 4.4ghz 8core, which of course means a new motherboard. I've already got a motherboard chosen (although not bought yet), the thing im getting stuck with now is the cooling. I've never assembled a processor before and dont want it screwing up.

However when i looked at the idea processor cooler, I'm confused, as it doesnt seem to have anything which would connect it to the motherboard or cpu. The fan im after is this one:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-042-AR
However i found a few more pictures of it, and the image clearly shows apparently nothing between the copper heat bars and the processor

*Please rehost the image rather than link to a competitor site*

Would it just screw on via those two hole things? What happens if i get a motherboard which doesn't have any way to connect that particular fan to it??
 
The PSU is still 750watts, i was planning to use the old one. The other question i forgot to mention is will there be a need to get a better PSU for the system with those particular upgrades. Apologies, its the GTX 660 that i will be getting, not the 650.
 
PSU is a win powerplus 750w psu model numberAD-E750AE-A5/A6.

Why should i not get the GTX 660? Is it prone to going wrong? I have had absolutely no prblem with my GTX460 It runs any game i have well and almost always on full graphical settings, if they were still making them, I would just buy another one.

After graphics card (already bought), I have up to £400 including the motherboard and processor and cooling.
 
you can return the GPU and get

FX8320 £113.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-337-AM
Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 £109.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-559-AS
Be Quiet! Shadow Rock Pro SR1 £39.95
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-002-BQ
HIS Radeon R9 270X IceQ BOOST £155.95
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-093-HS

£420 but GPU comes with 5 games

actually, that PSU is a joke. that would need replacing too.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-004-SF

£59.99
 
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Well, I did a bit of research on this, and we have got our graphics card (Gigabyte NVIDIA GTX660 2GB DDR5 PCI-E Graphics Card) from amazon, for just a bit less than the price of that Radeon, although looking at the passmark scores the radeon does get slightly better performance marks, though, however I'll probably stick with it now I've gotten it.

I note your suggesting a downgrade in performance with the actual CPU, perhaps i should have explained before, but this computer will not just be playing games. I do a lot of work with computer animations, physics simulations and the like in Blender, which takes full advantage of multiple core systems, unlike a lot of games! So I'll probably stick with that, given that the 9370 will effectively half my render times.

However your choices for motherboard and cooler look better than mine, So i will be going with them. Would i still be safe with a 650 watt power supply? or may i need to bump it up a bit?
 
lol why bother asking for advice if your just going to ignore it and keep your crap components anyhow? the people that respond here usually know what they are talking about. I think you just want someone to agree with you that you bought the right gear, probably wont happen here as most people here know whats good and whats rubbish.
 
I dont expect people to agree i have brilliant components, I have a budget. Its not a very big budget by any means, some people are lucky to have thousands to spend upgrading but i'll never be one of those people, so I have to choose from the best of the rest. why is a FX9370 a crap choice over a lower performance FX8320? The graphics card choice is almost exactly the same score-wise on passmark. Even if the 660 will not go quite as fast, so whats so bad about that choice?
 
won't spend much more time here, but you don't know what you're talking about.

8320 8350 9370 9590 are essentially the same chip just with higher factory overclocks.
 
You are aware that the 9370 Piledriver pulls a rather ridiculous 200w aren't you? Because this will ultimately determine your motherboard choice as not many will be able to reliably deliver that amount of power. Then there's the cooling needed and of course, the significant increase in cost.

When you take these points into consideration it becomes a difficult processor to recommend. It is, after all, (effectively) the same architecture as the existing 8350 and 8320 parts. Get one of these and suddenly the motherboard requirements aren't quite so stringent and the cooling required not so significant for the same number of cores. They can easily be overclocked too, giving close to the same performance as the 9xxx series.

The GPU issue is a different one. Yes, with current benchmarks there isn't a huge amount of difference, but the AMD unit is newer architecture, and with mantle on the way, could be a very attractive proposition. You really ought to be buying parts based on what their potential is as well as how they perform now.
 
CrayzCrinkle can you please edit out the competitor link and name from your opening post and re-check the FAQ regards competitors :)
 
You have a budget, people put up recommendations according to your budget, you still dont want their advice.

Plain and simple you are paying MORE for a CPU that can be bought cheaper and then overclocked to that performance with a bit of effort and some decent cooling.

Your PSU is junk, sorry but it is, if you want to go and run it with the risk of it failing and taking your hardware with it, go for it, dont say you was not warned.

The AMD GPU's people are recommending as pointed out are newer technology, there is a bit of software (api) in development called Mantle, this card will utilise it, we do not know specifics on performance yet but its rumored to be very good.

The basket Kefan put up was a really good option for you, dont be fooled by the cpu, it can be pushed to the perfomance on the one you listed, with a decent cooler like the Dark Rock, it will remain cool under good overclocking.

Take from that what you will, but if you come looking for advice, dont think people are offering their time to give you bad options, thats not the case here.
 
nice spec there by kefan77 :) if you are that bothered about the cpu and do not want to overclock it then pay more and get the 8350 :)
as for gfx, get the one listed and then when you have more money get a better one and that super flower psu 650w will power a better one so you wont need to change that and its also a highly regarded psu so if it blows the chance of it breaking something else in your system is minimal!
 
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