Crappy Nvidia Drivers

ben16 · 28 Mar 2008 at 01:07

Anyone with Vista and a Nvidia GPU probably already knows the two don't get on well together. In the course of the investigation of the "Vista Capable" scandal Microsoft have released data confirming it.

[I*G]http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/vistacrash-1.jpg[/IMG]

Full article here: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...t-paints-picture-of-buggy-nvidia-drivers.html

No hotlinking

gurusan · 28 Mar 2008 at 01:10

Interesting....I must have been one of the lucky ones because I never had any problems..even when I had my 6800GS running Vista RC1

Snakedoctor · 28 Mar 2008 at 01:12

Be interesting to see the percentage of Nvidia card owners compared to the percentage of others who use Vista. Not saying this is unsprising though, the amount of crashes I have had, mainly due to unstable overclock tests on new drivers.

helmutcheese · 28 Mar 2008 at 01:19

We all read that, and if you read it fully (even though no real excuse) they added this.

Quote :

" It's fair to say that NVIDIA has a whole lot of hardware out there to support, and therefore its count is likely to be a fair amount higher. But nearly one third of all crashes? That's a little too high."

So in future post all facts not the way a Newspaper prints headlines, then smallprint aint 100% accurate.

The URL is blocked for a reason. Don't try and circumvent the system. FF.

ben16 · 28 Mar 2008 at 01:25

helmutcheese said:
So in future post all facts not the way a Newspaper prints headlines, then smallprint aint 100% accurate.

I posted that the drivers were crappy and they clearly are. All you've done is given a poor excuse for why this may be the case.

If they can't provide proper support for the amount of products they bring out then they should cut back their produce range.

RavenXXX2 · 28 Mar 2008 at 01:33

I have no problems with NV drivers, compared to the the ATI bloatware i use to have on my system, they are great, I'm on vista 64 with no problems whatsoever.

perox · 28 Mar 2008 at 01:34

Vista has yet to crash on me once, this is with an ATI card.

Saying that I haven't actually used a Nvidia card with vista yet.

VortexA1 · 28 Mar 2008 at 02:09

RavenXXX2 said:
I have no problems with NV drivers, compared to the the ATI bloatware i use to have on my system, they are great, I'm on vista 64 with no problems whatsoever.

Interested in what you think.

Care to expound on what you consider 'ati bloatware'?

hernaldo · 28 Mar 2008 at 02:11

ben16 said:
Anyone with Vista and a Nvidia GPU probably already knows the two don't get on well together. In the course of the investigation of the "Vista Capable" scandal Microsoft have released data confirming it.

[I*G]http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/vistacrash-1.jpg[/IMG]

Full article here: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...t-paints-picture-of-buggy-nvidia-drivers.html

It doesn't confirm anything, it simly confirms that nvidia has more GPUs\products sold than any other company...

Well, maybe not quite proof of that, but its more likely to imply that than whats your saying it "conrfirms"...

Try thinking before starting a topic like this next time :rolleyes:

hernaldo · 28 Mar 2008 at 02:14

ben16 said:
I posted that the drivers were crappy and they clearly are. All you've done is given a poor excuse for why this may be the case.

If they can't provide proper support for the amount of products they bring out then they should cut back their produce range.

Thanks

But again, you haven't posted anything interesting at all and there's nothing to defend.

If the pie chart took into account the distribution of each companies products then we could get some meaningful statistics.

lol hate to say it but "wow" as the ameriancs say

hernaldo · 28 Mar 2008 at 02:18

Turophobic said:
Be interesting to see the percentage of Nvidia card owners compared to the percentage of others who use Vista. Not saying this is unsprising though, the amount of crashes I have had, mainly due to unstable overclock tests on new drivers.

I've had my fair share of BSODs with some "nvidia.dll......" listed as the culprit. However, its nearly always been because I've been overclocking a particular component too far, memory, gpu clocks etc...Point is that its ME that caused it, not nvidia...

You don't blame the manufacturer of your car when it breaks down because you filled the petrol tank with water do you?

Not having a dig at you, but most people say what you say, but don't say the bit you said afterwards

drunkenmaster · 28 Mar 2008 at 02:38

intel gpu's more than dominate the market with their IGP solutions, nvidia and ati together probably don't come close to matching Intel.

I've never had an unstable set of Vista ATi drivers, yet most of the 64bit(not tried 32bit) vista nvidia drivers have been unstable. Most people can't fault ATi's drivers for stability, most people DO complain about vista + 64bit with nvidia. Also nvidia seem to need 5-6 beta releases then a final version for every release for every new major game(Crysis probably had a heck of a lot more than 5 releases) while ATi get all new games sorted with a single driver release and the occasional hotfix between official releases. Bioshock, driver out day of demo(as with nvidia to be fair) that sorted it. Crysis, driver out for it before release, single driver, for a Nvidia supporting game.

ben16 · 28 Mar 2008 at 02:39

hernaldo said:
Thanks But again, you haven't posted anything interesting at all and there's nothing to defend.

If the pie chart took into account the distribution of each companies products then we could get some meaningful statistics.

lol hate to say it but "wow" as the ameriancs say

You can't make a post like that and not provide facts of your own. To make a point you need to find up to date, reliable sales figures from ATI and Nvidia.

And if I were to make a guess (which is all we can do till you find your statistics) then I doubt NV sells 3 times as much hardware as ATI. Yes, maybe in the enthusiast market but ATI has a strong presence in the mainstream and budget areas.

Tombo · 28 Mar 2008 at 02:43

No crashes for me with an nvidia card

Craig321 · 28 Mar 2008 at 02:43

ben16 said:
Anyone with Vista and a Nvidia GPU probably already knows the two don't get on well together. In the course of the investigation of the "Vista Capable" scandal Microsoft have released data confirming it.

http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/vistacrash-1.jpg[/IMG

Full article here: [url]http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080325-vista-capable-lawsuit-paints-picture-of-buggy-nvidia-drivers.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Mmmm, I thought so.

Have had a few minor problems myself with Vista and the NVIDIA drivers. Nothing major, so I'm fairly lucky.

Let's hope NVIDIA sort their drivers out then :)

dbmzk1 · 28 Mar 2008 at 03:19

Vista is only really going to crash if you are doing something taxing like playing a game, at least in my experience. It generally doesn't just crash while typing in word or browsing OcUK! This leads me to the fact that there are a lot more people who game use nvidia cards than ATI or Intel ones. These figures make more sense when you look at it like that. Nvidia also have a lot of beta and modified drivers which may cause stability issues not otherwise present.

Plus just because Vista reports that xxxdriver.dll crashed, does not mean that it was that particular piece of software that was at fault. For example, Xfire has caused a few of my games to crash yet Windows has reported the error as being nvidias fault.

You must always take statistics with a huge pinch of salt, as it depends who has collated the information and also how you interpret it.

mrk · 28 Mar 2008 at 03:24

Tombo said:
No crashes for me with an nvidia card

Same, my Vista just doesn't crash, in fact, what is crash ? I have all the latest modern end hardware spec wise and am a gamer, photoshopper and video converter.... I think some configs just crash due to people installing NAFF drivers instead of ones that are rated by users as good.

dbmzk1 · 28 Mar 2008 at 03:30

Don't believe any of you who say Vista has never crashed! Mine has crashed LOADS of times! I think pretty much all of them were my fault one way or another though

mrk · 28 Mar 2008 at 03:31

Apps crash of course but that's because apps sometimes crash anyway but Vista never crashes....on my machine.

helmutcheese · 28 Mar 2008 at 04:11

ben16 said:
I posted that the drivers were crappy and they clearly are. All you've done is given a poor excuse for why this may be the case.

If they can't provide proper support for the amount of products they bring out then they should cut back their produce range.

ALL YOU have done is TALK BS and not post all the facts, so get over it.

Either post ALL the facts or NONE at all. :rolleyes:

The drivers were buggy and review states that, it also stated more products=more drivers=more potential for issues.

You should get a job no bother with CNN.