Crazy phone cam

DanF

DanF

DanF

Soldato
Joined
16 Feb 2004
Posts
4,921
Location
London
Has anyone else looked at the Nokia 808 stuff springing up? It's using a 41mp camera behind carl zeis glass then sampling down to 5/8mp. It looks much better than a lot of P&S cameras and simply blows the current phone cameras out the water. Pretty scary stuff.

flickr 808 group
808 vid
ephotozine nokia-pureview-808-41mp-first-impressions-review

Being in Nokia it should get put in to a new W8 phone as well.
 
It does look good, but I'd be careful about saying that it blows current phone cameras out of the water - there are some seriously good ones now.

Would be interested to see a comparison of this and the SGSIII, One X/One S etc.
 
All Nokia needs to do to advertise the phone is to point people to the Flickr pool... some of those photos are fantastic.

Shame about the actual phone part really. If Nokia could whack that on WP or anything better than Symbian it'd be amazing.
 
I really don't see the point in sticking such a high mega-pixel sensor in a camera phone, which will be compromised by its optics and also will cause a premium in storage space.

I think Nokia is just trying to make it appear they have the best of something in an attempt to save their failing business.
 
Nexus said:
I really don't see the point in sticking such a high mega-pixel sensor in a camera phone, which will be compromised by its optics and also will cause a premium in storage space.

I think Nokia is just trying to make it appear they have the best of something in an attempt to save their failing business.
Click to expand...

Have you actually looked at the photos? It is undeniably excellent.
 
It's about Nokia differentiating on a USP. They know that they are known for quality cameras in their phones and they're trying to push it as a competitive advantage.
 
Nexus said:
I really don't see the point in sticking such a high mega-pixel sensor in a camera phone, which will be compromised by its optics and also will cause a premium in storage space.

I think Nokia is just trying to make it appear they have the best of something in an attempt to save their failing business.
Click to expand...

Read the reviews then you'll understand! It's actually pretty clever and nice to see a phone company or camera company for that matter try something different instead of the same old same old!
 
Prefer the photos from the SIII tbh as they actually have some DOF to them. Theres sod all bokeh on this nokia camera so the sensor must be absolutely tiny!
 
James J said:
Prefer the photos from the SIII tbh as they actually have some DOF to them. Theres sod all bokeh on this nokia camera so the sensor must be absolutely tiny!
Click to expand...

The sensor is much larger than the one used by the SIII or any other phone for that matter. You have more control over DOF than on the SIII, although it's obviously still going to be limited.

It'll only show in certain circumstances, such as close ups: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1202/Nokia/close-up-captured-with-nokia-808-pureview.jpg
 
Raikiri said:
The sensor is much larger than the one used by the SIII or any other phone for that matter. You have more control over DOF than on the SIII, although it's obviously still going to be limited.

It'll only show in certain circumstances, such as close ups: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1202/Nokia/close-up-captured-with-nokia-808-pureview.jpg
Click to expand...

Ah well spotted. I looked at a few close up photos but the bokeh on them was garbage but I didn't check the exifs to see what f number they had.
 
Hxc said:
Have you actually looked at the photos? It is undeniably excellent.
Click to expand...

Yes I looked through the Flickr group before commenting.

It still doesn't change what I said though, it might offer a huge resolution and a nice looking image, but it's still pointless in a camera phone where optically it suffers. Not to mention there is the complete lack of control over the image.

All I ask in a phone camera is that it takes a pleasing picture. I don't need it to take images that are huge print resolution, bigger than what I use on my DSLR, which will also eat storage space.
 
Nexus said:
It still doesn't change what I said though, it might offer a huge resolution and a nice looking image, but it's still pointless in a camera phone where optically it suffers. Not to mention there is the complete lack of control over the image.
Click to expand...

Um so you still didn't read the article :p

The Carl Zeiss Tessar f/2.4 lens has been specifically designed for this camera phone, as part of an exclusive partnership betwen Carl Zeiss and Nokia, that goes back five years. Carl Zeiss and Nokia explained that because the Carl Zeiss lens in the camera had to be much smaller than larger lenses, it meant they were able to use a much smaller parts in the lens and just 5 different pieces of glass.



The level of resolution the lens is capable of producing has been compared by Carl Zeiss to the Carl Zeiss Planar 2/50 ZM lens, and Carl Zeiss has found that the lens in the PureView 808 is capable of out resolving the more expensive 50mm Planar.
Click to expand...

It's basically like shooting with a prime lens but with not that much DOF control, so if your happy with the FOV then it's all good.

planner 2/50 ZM if it didn't come from Carl Zeiss I wouldn't have believed the statement, the lens is more than the whole phone :D
 
Last edited:
Saw this a while back (particularly the climbing sample pics) and it does look very impressive indeed!

Astonished by the low light performance @ ISO1600. :eek:
 
Yeah, definitely waiting for a Nokia phone with Windows Phone 8 to use this tech before I change from my current 7.5 Windows phone
 
DanF said:
Um so you still didn't read the article :p
Click to expand...

Read the summary of the review, it was far too long.

It's basically like shooting with a prime lens but with not that much DOF control, so if your happy with the FOV then it's all good.

planner 2/50 ZM if it didn't come from Carl Zeiss I wouldn't have believed the statement, the lens is more than the whole phone :D
Click to expand...

Shooting with any camera phone has always been like shooting with a prime though, every one I've ever had has had a fixed focal length.

It might be a better lens than your usual camera phone, but its still got nothing on a decent compact or better. Which again is why Im against the fact that it shoots such a ridiculous amount of resolution, its unnecessary.
 
Nexus said:
Which again is why Im against the fact that it shoots such a ridiculous amount of resolution, its unnecessary.
Click to expand...

No the resolution is necessary for how they plan to use it.

It will offer as close to some optical zoom as you will find anywhere without a moving lens, essentially offering a lossless zoom facility which is about the last thing missing from mobile phones.

Its a massive leap in tech terms for the mobile industry but it will also have implications for the compact camera industry as well as it may well be the final nail in the coffin for them.

Its also got huge potential for Nokia as a revenue stream because this phone is no doubt nothing but a platform to demo the tech. If they have patented the technology correctly (and I'm sure they have) then just about everybody that sticks a camera on a phone, or tablet is going to be interested in what it can do.

But for some reason you seem to be dismissing the tech because of the '41mp headline' without actually reading whats behind that headline.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom