Creatine a bad idea?

CoxyBoy123 · 27 Mar 2010 at 14:19

What are the down sides to creatine?

tom_e · 27 Mar 2010 at 14:33

can cause bloating and cramp but both can be kept to a minimum by keeping your water intake high

CoxyBoy123 · 27 Mar 2010 at 14:34

How many times weekly would you recommend training?

tom_e · 27 Mar 2010 at 14:42

that very much depends on your goals, but i wouldnt consider using creatine until youve got a solid routine and diet

CoxyBoy123 · 27 Mar 2010 at 14:43

I am a big build, 6.3... 94kg looking to build muscle and lose weight, taken up running in the past week and cut out junk completely... where do you recommend from here

^TANK^ · 27 Mar 2010 at 14:52

The gains I got were great, but it doesn't work for everyone! The joys of muscle cramps and spasms in the night ouch.

wragh · 27 Mar 2010 at 14:59

yeh nothing wrong with creatine, you can get some great results from it. just make sure you drink a lot of water!

CoxyBoy123 · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:16

HOw often did you guys take it?

A2Z · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:27

Im gona start taking it again from Monday. Last time i used I was having 5g a day.

^TANK^ · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:30

CoxyBoy123 said:
HOw often did you guys take it?

Every day 5mgs with Apple juice or orange juice in the evening. You're ment to do two months on and one month off according to the back of Reflex's creapture creatine monohydrate tub.

CoxyBoy123 · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:33

Is there anything else you would recommend instead with what i want to achieve

DarkShadow · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:39

CoxyBoy123 said:
I am a big build, 6.3... 94kg looking to build muscle and lose weight, taken up running in the past week and cut out junk completely... where do you recommend from here

Patience and perseverance. Simple.

Lose 1-2lb a week until you lose the gut and the rest will come over time. Eat properly and train hard.

I've lost 50lb of fat using the above method.

Personally I've never touched the stuff and I can't see myself in doing so.

FeFiDoh · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:43

how long have you been training?

Dont get suckered into the suppliments thing if its not very long, its an overally agressive market full of promises.

Patience and dedication reap reward

^TANK^ · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:45

CoxyBoy123 said:
Is there anything else you would recommend instead with what i want to achieve

Which one do you want to do, lose weight or gain muscle you can't do both sadly.

dave_beast · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:50

Creatine's ok, it's a natural amino acid that occurs in many things, including steak for instance. When training I take a creatine tablet with a pint of water, I found that it helped with muscle density, as opposed to size.

In regular season I don't take it as games and light upper body weight routines maintain the density.

If your taking it solely for muscle size then it's not what your looking for, but as part of a whole package (diet/other supplements) it will improve results.

Robert1986 · 27 Mar 2010 at 16:25

Have fun running back and forth to the toilet. When you take creatine, you need to drink more water than you ever drank before.

Really works well in the gym, I was stronger when I used to supplement it about 5 years ago.

Saying that, most if not all supplements are not needed. Stick to a multi-vit and work on your diet instead. Supplements do nothing if your food intake isn't good enough.

reiyushin · 28 Mar 2010 at 10:25

^TANK^ said:
Which one do you want to do, lose weight or gain muscle you can't do both sadly.

You can "trick" your body to grow under long term calorie deficit (provided you've got some fat stores you don't mind losing).

@OP To make your life easier you should probably focus on 1 goal at a time.

If you're just starting out I'd go for

1x Cardio session (the low intensity, long duration kind) (60mins)
1x HIIT session (10/50 to begin with, rowing/cross trainer preferably) (10-20mins)
1x Free weights session (The more compound the better, 10 reps, no less) (~45-60mins depending on how long you need to rest between sets)

Do that for 4-6 weeks and re-evaluate and adapt the program to your new needs

Get your diet in line, there are many guides out there. Protein and vegetables are your friends

these should be the bulk of your diet.

Creatine isn't worth considering at this time, save it for 6 months down the road when you're lean and mean and hitting the weights hard

One thing you could consider if you've really got your diet right is HMB. It's an anti-catabolic supplement which can help fat loss and protect your muscles during cutting phases

If you need anything else, feel free to email in trust

fendi · 28 Mar 2010 at 11:37

^TANK^ said:
Which one do you want to do, lose weight or gain muscle you can't do both sadly.

you can if he is just starting out, they are called noob gains

. shame they don't last forever.

edit,

lift heavy, MaxOT training. 1gram of protein per 1lb of LBM. eat at a defict. cut out the junk.

15 mins of intense cardio a couple of days per week also will help.

stick to oats, brown rice, cottage cheese, egg whites, brocolli, fish, skinless chicken breasts, lean red meat, fruit, a lot of water etc. eat healthy, and stick to exercising dailly and you will drop the fat.

ben90 · 28 Mar 2010 at 15:14

fendi said:
stick to oats, brown rice, cottage cheese, egg whites, brocolli, fish, skinless chicken breasts, lean red meat, fruit, a lot of water etc. eat healthy, and stick to exercising dailly and you will drop the fat.

What about all the fats? best way to lose fat is to eat fat, and a lot of it.

BennyC · 28 Mar 2010 at 19:06

ben90 said:
What about all the fats? best way to lose fat is to eat fat, and a lot of it.

Amen brother.

Nuts, Olive Oil, Butter etc