Credit Card limit slashed without warning

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Had a bit of a shock today when the wife rang me from the supermarket carpark to tell me that our joint credit card had been declined. For the last I don't know, 2 years or so, it had a credit limit of just over £10k. We pay it off every month.

As you can imagine with a £10k+ limit and paying it off every month, you wouldn't expect to go into Sainsburys and have your card declined when making a weekly shop, unless you go all supermarket sweep and pile up a couple of trollies with spirits and electricals. She does waste a lot of money on useless tat or mountains of food that end up in the bin, but a £9k supermarket shop would have been excessive, even for her.

So it turns out that yesterday the credit limit was reviewed, and instantly slashed from over £10k to £1350. Apparently a 'letter has been sent out' at some point yesterday, but obviously we haven't received it yet.

Now, don't get me wrong. I know that legally they are perfectly within their rights to do this. In the T&Cs there will be something along the lines of, we can adjust your credit at any time. It just seems to me that when making such a drastic change (~90% reduction) better customer service would be informing the customer of the event happening beforehand, to avoid the embarrassment of being stood at the checkout like a muppet.

Again, I'm not naive enough to think that paying our bill every month makes us a 'good' customer. It doesn't, because we aren't earning them money in interest. But if we clearly have no history of 'pulling a fast one' or racking up huge debts, why slash the credit instantly - why not give 7 days warning to say "from xx date your credit limit will be adjusted to £xxxx"? This would avoid getting such a shock when trying to use the card.

Credit is a priviledge and not a right - but it is not so much the fact that the limit has been adjusted, more the manner of it and lack of notice that I find annoying.

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It does sound quite shocking, and quite embarrassing for your wife. Not sure where you stand with this either, it's not like you can complain about the sudden slash as you've pointed out there's bound to be somewhere in the T&Cs that say they can slash it when they like.
 
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Check you have not had your id used by a fraudster.

Chances are NOT.

Yeah this is shoddy service. Was it Halifax by any chance?

Unfortunately this is how things are with card providers at the moment, happening left right and centre. Not a lot which you can do apart from complain just to have it noted you are not happy.
 
I sympathise with the OP, it's the lack of explanation or efficient communication which is a common failing of the implemented system. This happened to me once, and was subsequently ironed out to a more suitable conclusion after I made contact and pulled them up on it. The decision had already been made quite a while before a letter had arrived.
 
its simply because your costing them money rather than making them it by going over limits or late paying etc

just go elsewhere
 
It's not down to fraud as we have already spoken to the bank concerned to find out what was going on, the reason given was that having reviewed our spending over the previous 6 months they saw we'd never got anywhere close to the limit (which ironically they themselves had increased without being asked a couple of years ago).

It's just annoying that they choked it down so low just a few days before our bill arrives (and after we bought some furniture at the weekend) meaning that not only did we get no warning, but also the new limit was extremely close to the outstanding balance. If we had just cleared the past months spending it wouldn't have been so bad as at least we'd have a bigger window (big enough to do the shopping...)

I'm fairly relaxed about it as I don't view credit as essential but it's the sort of thing my wife can get a bit emotional about at the time due to the embarrassment of being in a shop and then having to spend money phoning up the bank to be put on hold for 5mins and then basically being told "a letter is in the post".

In all likelihood we will ditch this CC and move to a new one which maybe is what they want. Tempting to give them the finger and move my current/isa/savings/sharedealing accounts with them but probably more hassle that it's worth even if I'm not impressed with the level of service on the CC side of things.
 
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Banks: law unto themselves sometimes :(


It is undoubtedly in the T&Cs but it wouldn't hurt to give you a decent notice period. They just don't care or have amazingly poor customer service and it'll never change because we all just go along with it.
 
They have probably reviewed it, seen that you spend about that much each month (or just over) then dropped it in the hope that you will exceed it and have to pay the fine.

Move providers.

I'm pretty sick of banks at the moment as well, In Jan due to my previous employer going into administration and being paid late I went over my overdraft limit. I knew it was going to happen so moved some money over from savings to cover it but in the order of play a SO went out before the deposit went in (midnight probably for everything) so they charged me £25 for going over, then my deposit made me under again then my pension apparently made me over drawn again so they charged me £25 again. Then my final salary landed and made me in credit again.

All of that happened in the space of seconds and would have been different apparently (according to HSBC) if the system had processed things in a different order.

Anyway they reviewed it and my history of never being over limit or incurring a fine in over 20 years of banking with them and refunded me the £50 fine. I though that was the end of it until last Tuesday when I see another £25 "fee" so thinking I’ve somehow gone over my limit again (possible I’m self employed now) and see nothing. I call HSBC up and am told they have reviewed my account, decided to remove my overdraft (£500) completely and set me up a new overdraft (£500) and the fee for this process is, you guessed it £25.

I wasn’t consulted on this and have demanded they remove my overdraft and refund my £25 which they have. I have also informed them they are loosing me and my wife as customers, both have been with them 20 + years and we will be closing all of our accounts with them including our savings and isa's.
Theses aren’t massive amounts at only 15K but they are loosing 15-20 grand worth of investment for the sake of £25 (which they have refunded me anyway). I can’t help but think they are the ones loosing out tbh.

Sorry for long rant. feel better for it.

TLDR - HSBC are idiots
 
what happens to people if they do this and their balance is higher than the new limit ?

I'm guessing they wouldn't do that, buy who knows.

And yes, OP, I'd have thought it would be better for them to give advance notice of this sort of change. Call or write and complain.
 
Welcome to the world where banks have been 'advised' by the regulators not to give people excessive credit lines...
 
My limit was halved a year ago without warning. As I pay it off every month and never got anywhere near the limit that they had kept increasing over the years it did not bother me that much, though it was handy 5 years ago when I bought a car with my Mastercard while waiting for the loan to come through.
 
I am in the same baot, the CC company have increased my credit card limit from £2000 to over £10k without asking me. What is bizarre is that My original limit was £500 and when I wanted to increase it to a £1000 I had to jump though hoops and again from 1k-2k.

However they have wrote to me suggeting that my limit is too high, my highest bill in several years has been this month for £829 which I have already paid off.
 
This is not uncommon practice within the industry. The theory goes as follows: If you have a 10k line, but only ever spend up to 2k, the most likely reason why you'd end up using the full line is because you've hit some serious financial difficulties. Essentially, you can think of the last 5k as actually fairly high-risk if it's ever used. Whilst this was more theory than practice for many years, I would imagine that some issuers got burned by this phenomenon during the recession and are now being more careful about loose lines. There's also some Basel II influence on the amount of unused exposure they're likely to want.

That said, I don't think they handled the experience very well.
 
I'd be absolutely fuming if that happened.

reviewed our spending over the previous 6 months they saw we'd never got anywhere close to the limit

This is absolutely ridiculous. The whole point of a credit card is that sometimes you'll put large purchases (e.g. the furniture) on it but on average it's a similar amount spent each month, imposing a limit based on this makes no sense whatsoever.
 
My bank (Lloyds) has just done the same, I had a 10k limit and paid it off monthly (Never spent 10k). I had a letter yesterday saying it has been reduced to 2.5k with no real explanation other than a finance review. When I called them they offered to set my limit to 15k and appologised for any inconvienience.??
 
I had this happen too. I used a Barclaycard Mastercard for business/travel expenses. I had it cut from £3.5k to £1.7k with two days' notice, whilst I was abroad and ended up having the card rejected as I tried to pay the hotel bill.

Unfortunately it's entirely within their T&Cs to do this.

:(
 
I had my Barclaycard limit slashed too, when I questioned them about it all they said was "our underwriters decided to lower your limit and no, you can't ask them why". No balance on the card so I just closed the account.
 
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