I don’t actually, which one. (Not arguing about the response time I genuinely can’t see it.)
Critical Incident *breaking news* - Another stabbing!
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Good shout.Because emergency treatment of knife wounds has advanced significantly.
London's emergency medics reveal how they save lives after stabbings, crashes and attacks
Survival rates for patients have improved by 50 per cent since the creation of a network that links air ambulances, paramedics, doctors and hospitals, profiled by the new Channel 4 documentary series Emergencyinews.co.uk
If the population had doubled, and the homicide numbers remained the same, the homicides per 100,000 would have dropped from (and lets be generous) 2.75 per 100,000k to half that amount of 1.375 per 100,000k. Now lets be generous again, and assume that the homicides per 100k is 1.375, the population of london has not doubled.
If the absolute numbers had stayed static and the population just increased, you'd be looking at ~2.3 per 100k.
The tweet you responded to also stated the absolute numbers decreased.
Edit: Some numbers from 2006.
That's why you don't get murders.
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Caporegime
So your posting of death rates, as stated, wasn't really useful. A more useful metric would be as follows;
London knife crime 2024 | Statista
Knife crime in London has increased significantly in recent years, reaching a peak in 2019/20, and remaining at high levels since then.
www.statista.com
Since Khan took over in 2016 there was a huge spike that dropped with covid but numbers still remain higher and are again on the rise.
Soldato
“Since Khan” 
Location: Northern England.
Location: Northern England.
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You're posting stuff I know, I've linked the ONS data here -So your posting of death rates, as stated, wasn't really useful. A more useful metric would be as follows;
London knife crime 2024 | Statista
Knife crime in London has increased significantly in recent years, reaching a peak in 2019/20, and remaining at high levels since then.
Since Khan took over in 2016 there was a huge spike that dropped with covid but numbers still remain higher and are again on the rise.
The posting of death rates was additional information, it was not an "instead of".
Every area apart from the North West (good job NW, though they've changed how they count stuff, so YMMV) has had their knife/sharp instrument offences go up since Khan took over. Interestingly, London has has a largish jump in the last year compared to other places.
“Since Khan”
Location: Northern England.
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Soldato
I've lived in London for most of my 40 years and never been stabbed. By that reasoning, do you wear a crash helmet to bed, just in case you bump your head? Spent a good while in Belfast, too
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The Mayor is directly responsible for all knife crime, and the government share no blame 
Now you’re getting it.The Mayor is directly responsible for all knife crime, and the government share no blame
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I blame Andy Street too.The Mayor is directly responsible for all knife crime, and the government share no blame
I'm joking
TBF Khan's attitude stinks, but it all fell off a cliff with Theresa May's vendetta against the police IMO.The Mayor is directly responsible for all knife crime, and the government share no blame
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Soldato
So your posting of death rates, as stated, wasn't really useful. A more useful metric would be as follows;
London knife crime 2024 | Statista
Knife crime in London has increased significantly in recent years, reaching a peak in 2019/20, and remaining at high levels since then.
Since Khan took over in 2016 there was a huge spike that dropped with covid but numbers still remain higher and are again on the rise.
Haha yeah the London mayor with pretty much zero control over the MET budget is to blame
And I don't care which party is in that office, when the mayor gets 50+% of all taxes raised in London then he/she can be held responsible.
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The Mayor is directly responsible for all knife crime, and the government share no blame
About sums it up
Caporegime
Haha yeah the London mayor with pretty much zero control over the MET budget is to blame
He literally holds the mandate for policing in the capital. Simple. No ifs. No buts.
Caporegime
The Mayor is directly responsible for all knife crime, and the government share no blame
How do knife crime rates in London compare to the rest of the country?
Most of the budget is still centrally allocated however and the MET has loads of extra responsibilities that other forces don't generally need to deal with (protecting useless politicians for one).
The worst in the country, second when you look at per 100k population.
We seem to have a bigger issue with robbery with a knife as that contributes to ~9k of our 14.5k incidents than the rest of the country. At least at a glance.
Soldato
He can't increase their budget. He can't hire 1000s more police, build new or reopen police stations closed by the government. Our mayors are pretty powerless compared to other major cities around the world. They should be properly funded and given control of the city that elected them. Instead central government has control of everything that actually matters including the purse strings. Hopefully Labour change that and give elected mayors control of their cities and far more of the taxes raised.
Soldato
"Funny" when you consider that in London the highest incidence of knife crime is in Westminster.
Bloody MPs all going tooled up I guess.
London is 3rd based on incidents by 100,000 population. West Midlands and Cleveland being the top two.
(Based on 22/23 numbers)
Khans reach is obviously wide
Bloody MPs all going tooled up I guess.
London is 3rd based on incidents by 100,000 population. West Midlands and Cleveland being the top two.
(Based on 22/23 numbers)
Khans reach is obviously wide
Soldato
How does Mark Rowley fit into this?
Jeremy Hunt literally holds the mandate for setting the budget that pays for the Met (net of the council tax element which you’d know about as a keen Londoner). Simple. No ifs. No buts.
James Cleverly literally holds the mandate for policing the areas that aren’t covered by the Met. Simple. No ifs, No buts.
Do you think you might have gone a bit Lee Anderson?
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