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All very predictable
Crysis 2
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People relish the opportunity to pounce on a console port without actually considering the ramifications of it. If it's a console port, it must just be bad.
Valve used to make PC games, now they make multi-platform games and nobody can tell the difference. This isn't just because the PC is the lead platform, it's because Valve have always made console compliant games, even when they were PC only.
The Half-Life story is about as linear as it gets yet this doesn't stop it being a dazzling experience.
I'll agree that it would be a shame if we (PC gamers) lose some of what makes the PC it's own platform and going to consoles will change the experience for all of us, but regarding the actual quality of the gameplay there is nothing to suggest that going multi-platform and narrowing the playing field will mean it will be a poor game. After all, it's not like we are losing a truly open world game, Crysis was linear, it just had very wide coridoors.
Just as log as the PC version gets the TLC it deserves.
Valve used to make PC games, now they make multi-platform games and nobody can tell the difference. This isn't just because the PC is the lead platform, it's because Valve have always made console compliant games, even when they were PC only.
The Half-Life story is about as linear as it gets yet this doesn't stop it being a dazzling experience.
I'll agree that it would be a shame if we (PC gamers) lose some of what makes the PC it's own platform and going to consoles will change the experience for all of us, but regarding the actual quality of the gameplay there is nothing to suggest that going multi-platform and narrowing the playing field will mean it will be a poor game. After all, it's not like we are losing a truly open world game, Crysis was linear, it just had very wide coridoors.
Just as log as the PC version gets the TLC it deserves.
Oh yes - that blew me away even if I had to run everything on low on my FX5200!
I can't wait, love the crysis series, fast twitch run and gun shooters are a blast to play, multiplayer looks fun too. Framerate looks ok to me YouTube - Crysis 2 PC Campaign footage
Of course it will appear on the console sat the same time, but the PC version will still be just that, a dedicated PC version with a decent menu system, the best graphics that the source engine can produce and invariably there will be free content etc for the PC version as well.
I've always been PC gaming fan. With a small exception of PS1, used for one, single snowboarding game, I never properly owned a console for prolonged period of time. I find gaming experience on a sofa too lazy, too boring and too impossible to immerse in. I find console games themselves are too linear, too arcadish, with controls catering for 8 year olds. It's not for me. I tried PS2 and Xbox. It took me just 4 hours to sell Wee I got as Xmas gift to my neighbour. It's not gaming in my book. And I hope gaming world doesn't go that way, I wouldn't want to play Total War series like football games on consoles, I wouldn't want to go through ArmA with four buttons with X O and square on them. I don't want gaming on the sofa. And I never asked to play games on my telly.
However, this will be interesting to watch. Because all the major hardware manufacturers and Microsoft themselves have vested interest in console world, the push to support PC games in the last few years weakened. The last game to truelly push boundries in PC world was Crysis. It is now three years old. Everything since is just running around in circles - most of the new PC games at the moment don't look and play as good to justify how badly and slowly they run on top end hardware. Three years in a gaming world is abyss. Original Quake and Quake III Arena were three years apart. Three years in hardware world is the time it took for ATI to move from Radeon X1300 to Radeon 4870. Intel moved from 3Ghz P4 with HT to Core2Quad Q6600 in three years. Three years is a lot of time, in PC world. And for such long time, we, had no decent, genre, hardware, engine boundry pushing game.
So, if PC gaming was to remain like this. Just higher Direct X numbers, for console ports, running slower, looking not that much better than one revision before, game coders adding just most pointless, puke inducing elements - like motion blur - to cover for the lack of real graphic or engine improvements, while constantly demanding more raw power in hardware upgrades - if I was to capitulate, give up and buy PS3 - I'm asking myself - what would be the point of me keeping windows box. There is nothing, except gaming that keeps me buying MS OS. Nothing, except Microsoft OS that keeps me buying certain hardware items. In my book, my end of PC gaming, is the end of my PC and constant hardware upgrades. The moment I stop windows gaming, this is it - I close up my Mac Pro - two CPUs, pletora of ram, terrabytes of space, for browsing, typing documents, some video editing, photoshopping - I don't need anything else for at a decade. no one gets a penny from me for at least 10 years. No graphics upgrades, no CPU upgrades, no ram upgrades, no reading up on chipsets, no watercoolers, fan decibel ratings and weighted mice for stupid money.
And let's just say - other PC owners follow my path
How's that good for anyone in computer business?
Surely this is stupidly shortsighted for any manufacturer involved?
However, this will be interesting to watch. Because all the major hardware manufacturers and Microsoft themselves have vested interest in console world, the push to support PC games in the last few years weakened. The last game to truelly push boundries in PC world was Crysis. It is now three years old. Everything since is just running around in circles - most of the new PC games at the moment don't look and play as good to justify how badly and slowly they run on top end hardware. Three years in a gaming world is abyss. Original Quake and Quake III Arena were three years apart. Three years in hardware world is the time it took for ATI to move from Radeon X1300 to Radeon 4870. Intel moved from 3Ghz P4 with HT to Core2Quad Q6600 in three years. Three years is a lot of time, in PC world. And for such long time, we, had no decent, genre, hardware, engine boundry pushing game.
So, if PC gaming was to remain like this. Just higher Direct X numbers, for console ports, running slower, looking not that much better than one revision before, game coders adding just most pointless, puke inducing elements - like motion blur - to cover for the lack of real graphic or engine improvements, while constantly demanding more raw power in hardware upgrades - if I was to capitulate, give up and buy PS3 - I'm asking myself - what would be the point of me keeping windows box. There is nothing, except gaming that keeps me buying MS OS. Nothing, except Microsoft OS that keeps me buying certain hardware items. In my book, my end of PC gaming, is the end of my PC and constant hardware upgrades. The moment I stop windows gaming, this is it - I close up my Mac Pro - two CPUs, pletora of ram, terrabytes of space, for browsing, typing documents, some video editing, photoshopping - I don't need anything else for at a decade. no one gets a penny from me for at least 10 years. No graphics upgrades, no CPU upgrades, no ram upgrades, no reading up on chipsets, no watercoolers, fan decibel ratings and weighted mice for stupid money.
And let's just say - other PC owners follow my path
How's that good for anyone in computer business?
Surely this is stupidly shortsighted for any manufacturer involved?
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You haven't got an iota of proof for any of this, and when you're done trolling threads in console gaming with your idiotic posts like this one, you can back your arguments up properly.
There won't be any projects like Crysis for the PC again, because who wants to spend millions of dollars on a game that pushes the boundaries of hardware that only a tiny minority actually has? Why do you think companies like Infinity Ward and Crytek decided to jump ship? They don't care about hardcore PC fanboys like you anymore, and it's clearly driving you mad.
Deal with it.
As for the rest of you, don't even pretend to be surprised when HL2: Episode 3 turns out to be designed almost completely for the lowest common denominator, much like how Crysis 2 is, and how Modern Warfare 2 was.
The supposed PC version had xbox screen promps. It's a port.
^ from what I've seen they've optimized it a lot for the 360 controller, mostly because it makes console gamers think they're playing on a 360 and are like '****, this has way better graphics than MW2!'
"I think there is a different target audience for the console market. I wouldn’t say dumbed-down, but you have to distill the experience to make it easier to access, and you have to limit the number of options you have. If we were to do a multi-platform title, then the way we would approach it is that there would be a design team that works on the console experience and a design team that works on the PC experience."
- Cevat Yerli
If he stuck to this(which I 99% sure he did, it's just hard to find a newer link or quote) then it is certainly not a port, you sure it was the PC version you were looking at or that a 360 controller wasn't connected to it?
"I think there is a different target audience for the console market. I wouldn’t say dumbed-down, but you have to distill the experience to make it easier to access, and you have to limit the number of options you have. If we were to do a multi-platform title, then the way we would approach it is that there would be a design team that works on the console experience and a design team that works on the PC experience."
- Cevat Yerli
If he stuck to this(which I 99% sure he did, it's just hard to find a newer link or quote) then it is certainly not a port, you sure it was the PC version you were looking at or that a 360 controller wasn't connected to it?
guys what did you expect? its no wonder ocuk are now selling light bulbs!! no one is buying the pointless £500 graphics cards to play poor console ports when you can pick up a shiny new ps3 or xbox for £200!
My pc is for games such as wow and fps, i even downgraded it and it plays black ops just fine.
My pc is for games such as wow and fps, i even downgraded it and it plays black ops just fine.
The pics and vids ive seen say otherwise, it just loads up like a regular game, at least in that one vid that was on youtube.
And if crytek want to whine, let them. Its fairly obvious that they were pretty lax on who got a hold of beta builds.
exactly, so whats the point in upgrading? lol