Crysis @ 8xaa very high with good framerate

im sorry but i have played crysis a fair bit over the past few months and AA is rubbish in that game, it hits performance while seeming to do nothing, your far better of setting yourself up a custom config with HDR, edge AA and occlusion mapping, etc than you using stock settings and AA, the framerate hit doesn't justify the results, but saying that i get perfectly playable framerates at 1280*1024 with custom settings on vista x64 in DX10, hell after the 1.1 patch i even noticed the ice/carrier levels were actually playable rather than a slide show :) IMO don't waste your time with AA in crysis
 
Adrianr said:
Looks a bit daft with those big black bars down the side on my 22".
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Thats not normal, its supposed to be full screen sized and blury or crap looking, sounds like you have NV scaling enabled.

VortexA1 said:
http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crysisjs0.jpg

It's smooth for me - I guess motion-blur helps.

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Wish I had eyes like you, 21fps smooth, thats pretty awfull for me, I tried 1280x1024 all high 8xAA and got 30fps average and even then was not smooth.

Just tried same settings as you, laaaag fest, that was 24.34 too.
 
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LCD has that problem but 760p is a good idea otherwise. Combine it with a custom config and you can have high details at a good fps on most cards up from a x1950pro
 
Bizarre said:
So is your comment tbh. :rolleyes:

I fully understand why people prefer lcd's over crt's, it's obvious isn't it, they're smaller, lighter, aesthetically pleasing, energy efficient, don't flicker, cause less eye strain, etc etc.

However, a decent crt still beats the best of lcd's in quite a few areas, ie they have no native resolution problems, better color and gray scale accuracy, no ghosting, no dead pixel worrys, no backligh leakage / clouding worrys, far less tearing, deepers blacks and higher contrast levels, better viewing angles, higher refresh rates, etc etc.

FYI I own a couple of lcd's and much prefer them for web browsing and general desktop usage, for gaming though, they don't come close to my big fugly crt. :p
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Touché.

If my 21" Trinitron (HP p1130) lasts 2-3 more years I can avoid nasty TFT completely and get a big cheapish OLED panel :p
 
fish99 said:
How do you work that out? Anytime you're not running v-sync you will get tearing. The lower your refresh rate, the more noticeable the tearing is.
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because you need more than your refresh rate for tearing, so if you can get 60+ fps with high settings + the 8xAA in crysis on a decent LCD resolution, you have one hell of a rig..
 
Bizarre said:
So is your comment tbh. :rolleyes:

I fully understand why people prefer lcd's over crt's, it's obvious isn't it, they're smaller, lighter, aesthetically pleasing, energy efficient, don't flicker, cause less eye strain, etc etc.

However, a decent crt still beats the best of lcd's in quite a few areas, ie they have no native resolution problems, better color and gray scale accuracy, no ghosting, no dead pixel worrys, no backligh leakage / clouding worrys, far less tearing, deepers blacks and higher contrast levels, better viewing angles, higher refresh rates, etc etc.

FYI I own a couple of lcd's and much prefer them for web browsing and general desktop usage, for gaming though, they don't come close to my big fugly crt. :p
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Some of the more high end LCD's now are very good, nearing the high end CRT's and much better than a lot of the old crt's.

At moment I have my dads of dell CRT for my mini map in supcom next to my big LCD, and its horribly dark compared to the LCD if you stretch a video between the two the difference is amazing.

Also is it just my eys or do CRT's generally start to get darker over the years my old one (which my dad now uses) seams far darker than when it was new.

Still I love my 24" benq, could never of had that size with a crt due to small desks and moving to uni :p

*strokes monitor lovingly, while having dirty thoughts of an oled screen *
 
willhub said:
Wish I had eyes like you, 21fps smooth, thats pretty awfull for me, I tried 1280x1024 all high 8xAA and got 30fps average and even then was not smooth.

Just tried same settings as you, laaaag fest, that was 24.34 too.
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Crysis is smooth at anything above 25, thought this was a pretty widespread belief?

Unlike most games, Crysis at 25+ feels pretty damn smooth and 100% playable.
 
Tefal said:
because you need more than your refresh rate for tearing, so if you can get 60+ fps with high settings + the 8xAA in crysis on a decent LCD resolution, you have one hell of a rig..
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That's not correct, you can get tearing at any framerate, high or low as long as v-sync is off.
 
fish99 said:
That's not correct, you can get tearing at any framerate, high or low as long as v-sync is off.
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tearing is when the gfx card is producing more frames than the monitor can display, if your putting out less than the monitors refresh rate then it won't be trying to draw the next frame before it's finished the one before.
 
Tefal said:
tearing is when the gfx card is producing more frames than the monitor can display, if your putting out less than the monitors refresh rate then it won't be trying to draw the next frame before it's finished the one before.
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Again wrong. Tearing is when there's no synchronization between when the front and back buffers are swapped on the video card and when the screen starts a vertical retrace. With v-sync off the game will swap the buffers as soon as a frame is rendered meaning you get part of one frame and part of the next sent to the monitor. Seriously you can get tearing at any framerate.
 
Jihad said:
Crysis is smooth at anything above 25, thought this was a pretty widespread belief?

Unlike most games, Crysis at 25+ feels pretty damn smooth and 100% playable.
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I know, it used to feel smooth at 25+fps for me but now it just does not, I dont know why but its not smooth anymore.
 
Oh the infinate high fps squad.
Play what you think is smooth. I've been there before on my 6800GS, and must admit I prefer detail far above fps, imo 25 fps + maxed > 40 fps medium-low. Played through a lot of major games ( bioschock, GoW, MoH:A, CoD4 all high but on low fps and reso and it's fine).
If the guy can live with 22 fps I believe him, movies are that fps ( the ones I dl anyways) too and with some proper blur it's perfectly playable.
Sure if may feel jumpy in some games, eg. in SA it's very stuttery with the frame limiter on and no blur ( SA: MP ) but with motion blur its good.


As for crt/tft, I must say I prefer the TFT, owning & using both, however for games as Crysis, a CRT is superb as lower res isn´t all that bad. Tearing never really bothered me and the only thing I hate about my tft is the native res thing and the changing brightness on TN panels when moving up and down.
 
Movies seem perfectly smooth, they are done differently to games though.

I tried playing EQ2 at 25fps, and its very hard, all games seem to be different at the same fps, but if I can play a game on high or above, I usually wont play that game at all, EQ2 is an exception as I paid a lot of money for it.
 
I think crysis is more movie like, 20 or so fps can be ok. Any less and yea I would agree it feels jerky but it seems to have a naturally smooth effect to it that makes lower fps still ok I think.

Motion picture movies are set to something like 23 frames a second but its not usually comparable to computer graphics because the movie frames are blurred and flow more evenly where as computer rendered graphics transition more sharply
 
Agreed with the above - I refuse to lower (myself :D) the settings.

Also with a previous post, my CRT definitely got far darker over time - that is infact the only reason I had to get rid of it as I couldn't see ANYTHING in darker areas on games. The difference in brightness was astounding, not to mention the 5" screen size increase (19 to 24) which doesn't even include the viewable :)
 
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