crysis and ut3 tanking?

KNiVES said:
You can put that down to absurd PC component prices.
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What? You can get decent kit for next to nothing at the minute!

KNiVES said:
you can't help but wonder what if it was released on consoles - it'd get the audiences it deserves, and Crytek wouldn't be doubting themselves so much. I know EA isn't particularly pleased with the figures, and they would most likely be pushing for multi-platform releases of future iterations of Crysis.
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I doubt any current console would be able to handle Crysis, not without cutting corners and scaling it down drastically, so I cant see the sequels coming to anything other than PC. If they'd have made it multi-platform, sacrifices would've had to be made and the game probably wouldnt even resemble what it does now. So for that reason I hope future iterations never come to consoles.
 
sup3rc0w said:
PC gaming is dead consoles are taking over... :rolleyes:
God, how many more times is this same old same old argument going to begin?
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Because it's true. The console market has had a massive (and I mean massive!) impact on the PC market. On top of the impact is the ease of downloading illegally, the games in question.
 
KNiVES said:
First it's not a flop because it was a tech demo anyway,
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Yes i missed the just out of the sentence where it would have said its not just about the game as they could make money form the engine just like ut3 acts as a great demo for the u3 engine, which as the old ones did, will gross far more in licences then the game will in sales.

Also your saying 87k sale in 2 weeks is not a lot??

It may not be the highest number ever but its still a hell of a lot and Christmas is still to come, also it will be selling for well over a year or 2 as more people get systems that can handle it, and mods come out for it.

Also how do you class crysis as a major release, when 90% of people don't even know what it is? It may be major for people who follow gaming/news closely but for mos t"casual gamers" its unheard of.

If they'd stuck just a quarter of the adverts halo got on tv you could bet a load more people will have got it.
 
Tefal said:
Also your saying 87k sale in 2 weeks is not a lot??
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It's not really, if you look at a lot of release figures for monthly sales of a game on consoles (I say this, because they are posted regularly in the consoles section) then you can see the difference.

Halo 3 sold millions in 1 weekend.
 
I'm late to this thread so if anyone has said "PC gaming is dying" or "piracy has hurt sales" then please just add my laughs to the pile as I don't have much else to add. ;)

NokkonWud said:
Halo 3 sold millions in 1 weekend.
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People bringing up Halo 3 is pretty funny too, since it was the exception as opposed to the rule. And how many television adverts can anyone remember seeing for Crysis or UT3 as opposed to adverts for Halo 3?

Also I have both a PC and an Xbox 360 Elite but I didn't buy Halo 3, enough said really.
 
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HangTime said:
Well there goes any semblance of credibility in this article:

1) If you look around, the 1.7million figure quoted includes figures from multiple nations: "The countries with the most number of sales includes: Germany, the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Scandinavia and the US."

This article is looking purely at US sales for Crysis/UT3

2) They think that 10 days is a similar period to 2 months. What?! Plus, crucially, the HL2 figures include the whole of December (when Xmas boosts video games sales significantly), whereas the Crysis/UT3 figures don't include December at all.

Now, I'm not going to try and argue about whether Crysis or UT3 have 'flopped' or not - maybe they have. But one thing is for certain, this article proves nothing and just strikes me as being either incredibly naive and poorly thought out, or just some kind of targetted propaganda. In neither case should anyone with an IQ higher than their Crysis framerate take it seriously.
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end of thread tbh ;)
 
I ain't brought Crysis yet but I think sales will be steady for the next year or so as we all know that the game is built with a for future systems / next gen graphic cards so wont be forgotten quickly & people will be using it to bench mark there computer (IMO)

:)
 
UT3 is a flop because it isn't very good, first of all. Secondly it has very high system requirements. Valve games sell so well because (apart from being great games) they run on older hardware decently. Half Life 2 runs great even on a Geforce4 or below for example. Compare that to Crysis or UT3 which won't even RUN without a DX9 card. And unless you have a dual core CPU + high end gfx card it looks like a Playstation game and runs at a poor framerate.

Perhaps PC developers should copy Valve's example and run a poll of their users to see what hardware they are running. Valve does this regularly so it knows what spec of machine to target. This is one of the reasons its games are at the top of the online players charts, and UT3 is languishing in 38th place with 200 players: http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/
 
dirtydog said:
UT3 is a flop because it isn't very good
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If it's a flop then that's not why, plenty of bad games succeed. I've not played UT3 so I wouldn't know if it's good or bad but I'd put £10 on it being better than Stalker, which nobody ever seemed to call "a flop."

High system requirements I agree with, with a but. If you don't want to pay the premium that comes with PC gaming and having better graphics/sound/controls, you're better off sticking with consoles.

Still, I don't believe that UT3 is tanking. I see lots of people talking about it, lots of screenshots of it appearing in the screenshot thread of this forum etc. Seems to me like it's alive and kicking.
 
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Also when UT2003 came out it ran perfectly well on a Geforce2 MX. UT3 does not run remotely well on lower end graphics cards. A 7600GS for example runs it very poorly, from personal experience.
 
Maybe it has something to do with the large amount of good games released in the last few months.

If it was just UT3 and Crysis I'm sure they would have sold more.

Bioshock, UT3, C&C3, CoD4 the list goes on of good games this year.
 
Damonic said:
Maybe it has something to do with the large amount of good games released in the last few months.
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Nail on head IMHO. :) If UT3 was released in summer when the only half decent game out was Stalker it would've cleaned house, not only that but more people would've seen Stalker for the turd that it really is.

When you have so many good games out at once, it's difficult to label any of them a true success and more people will buy the overhyped ones (Halo 3 and Crysis, even though I like Crysis) which skews sales.

I mean by the logic demonstrated in this thread I could compare sales figures of Halo 3 and Mass Effect and say that Mass Effect is quite obviously a dismal failure, but let's see who agrees. ;)
 
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I truly hope there is a sustained burst of people playing UT3 on Christmas day onwards ;). Before I did play it, I would happily have waited from release until xmas to play it. It's the kind of game that a lot of people wouldn't really be bothered about until they started playing it. Possibly. :p
I know I've thought this about a few games, but I think UT3 is probably the best game I've played this year. Not too bothered about the success of crysis because it's primarily a single player game, although the multiplayer isn't bad. Too many better multiplayer games out for crysis to succeed there though IMO.

Also where did the 200 player figure come from? I'm sure there's more than that when I've been online. At least 120 on warfare alone and many more on DM I'd say
 
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kk I see the post now :)

I'm guessing it may depend on time of day quite a lot. Bit early for a lot of people. Currently at 35th / 380 players

edit: 34/ 400 now

still quite bad of course
 
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