Crysis via 1080 Projector

Mr Latte · 30 Dec 2007 at 19:33

Hi, ive recently built a new entertainment PC.

I would like to enjoy Crysis on my projector but know the PC spec would struggle with it. Before purchasing the game can someone give advice if my system would be upto the job of running the game in full graphical detail or close to it .

My projector is a 1080p model but it scales very well so im thinking of running the game with a 1280x720 resolution. Although i may have to drop even lower to maintain all the visual effects. Essientially i want it to look as well as possible on my 80" screen but still be playable. My preference would be to reduce the resolution and keep most of the effects on as possible

Can anyone offer any help regards settings or performance expected?

PC Specs
Vista Ultimate (yes i know dx 10 slower)
AMD 64X2 6000+
4GB Ram
2x Gainward 8600GT 512mb in SLI

Darkwave · 30 Dec 2007 at 19:47

The best way to know is to try the demo.

You can find it at the usual places, www.gh3d.com etc.

PinkFloyd · 30 Dec 2007 at 19:51

Should run well in 1280x720, not sure how well SLI works on this game, but imagine 1080p would be playable

Supercow · 30 Dec 2007 at 20:18

There is no chance your PC would handle it at around 1080p with those 8600's in SLI.
Why would you have SLI for a media centre anyways?

Would have been MUCH better off just getting a single GTX if the intention was to play games as well.

edit: Sorry- just read again. At 1280x720 you should get away with it

Mr Latte · 30 Dec 2007 at 20:47

One card was bought at the time, annother was added, also they are both silent heatsink cards.

Im not a BIG PC gamer but wouldnt mind seeing some of the more recent games on the Projector offering better than console visuals.

The projector will also accept the following which might help...

WIDE 600 = 1072 x 600
MXGA 70 = 1152 x 864

Is anyone running with dual 8600's ?

Darg · 30 Dec 2007 at 20:49

Let me get this straight, you have an 80" TV *and* a 1080p projector and yet you can't afford a decent processor or graphics card?!

Throw in an 8800GT and a C2D setup and revel in the glory of max details in the DX9 very high hack mode.

EDIT: Just realised that by 80" screen you might mean what the projector projects onto but still. Computer first then peripherals

Mr Latte · 30 Dec 2007 at 20:53

My sig tells you pretty much what i use the screen for/with.

I dont play enough PC games anymore to warrant a £300 graphics card.
Got fed up with all the patches,driver updates and incompatibility problems involved with PC gaming. Consoles ended up offering an easy, enjoyable alternative.
Still i can see me wanting to play certain games and some of my old favourites which the card(s) will run fine.

Supercow · 30 Dec 2007 at 21:41

Silent cooling is a valid point, but you are not being very consistent here Mr Latte, 8600's in SLI will be much more hassle with drivers/patches/incomatability not to mention the fact that the same company in question brings out the drivers for both the 8600 and 8800 with but the way you spend your money is not our business and not the question of the thread.

Didn't that bloke we all dubbed "8600gt man" (Jacob Billing) have the card run Crysis, might be worth checking Youtube and see what games he was running on it. Ignore the cheeseball commentry off course

Supercow · 30 Dec 2007 at 21:52

Although Youtube video quality is rubbish you should be able to get an idea from this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9CD0yQM6yU

His description

sorry about the random jumps, fraps only lets me record 30 seconds
Playin the crysis demo on my 8600gt, usually plays around 30-50fps, but it was down to 20-30fps because of fraps. Everything medium-high @ 1024x768 in dx9
Heres my spec
intel e2160 oc'd to 2.31ghz
2gb ddr2 667mhz
xpertvision 8600gt oc'd (670/800 from 540/700)
vista home premium

Mr Latte · 30 Dec 2007 at 22:29

Well tbh i know that even the 8800s dont do justice to the game. The main purpose of the PC was general usage and Hi Def movies. I assumed that 2x 8600GTs would give about 80-90% of a 8800 series cards? If it turns out that SLI is a bad move, creating a lot of hassle then well id have to maybe re-consider something else in the future. Still though i will eventually get round to checking other games like COD 4 / Unreal T / GOW and see how they run. Ive been away from PC games for a long time, Crysis is the new visual delight so fancied seeing it.

I understand a patch is coming in January that might help frames a bit but limited no doubts.

----------------

BAD
Anyways ive now installed the game and had a quick run at it with fraps.
Everything on V-HIGH is below 15 FPS even on low resolutions
Adding 2x AA sucks 5+ FPS on low res

TERRIBLE
1280x720 with everything on V-HIGH is a fantastic 5-10 FPS yet it looks beautiful on such a large screen.

OKAY
Running the game in medium - high on certain settings does get about 25 FPS.

However i might just hold off and see what happens regards the patch as id like to enjoy the game visually at a high level besides im in no major rush to play it. Then again it might be a while before a single card will run the game on MAX settings in 1080 and cost no more than about £300 - £350, then id maybe re-consider. Spending £1000 -£2000 every 18 months on PC hardware to always enjoy the latest games isnt something im prepared to do anymore. I did that for several years but got sick to the teeth of it

Maybe im best keeping to consoles now.

Darg · 30 Dec 2007 at 22:46

Well you can keep to under £200 and still play even games like Crysis on decent settings. I get playable settings on DX9 very high (hack) settings on my 2900XT. The X3870 would be similiar performance and is still quite low cost. Well under £200 last time I looked.

2x8600GTs I'm afraid would only ever get at most 60-70% or so of the performance of a GTX even in the best of SLi supporting games. A whole range of games don't even support SLi so a two card solution is almost never the best.

Inazuma · 30 Dec 2007 at 23:17

No computer can play Crysis near Max at such a high resolution. However Medium/High settings still looks great

MHayes · 30 Dec 2007 at 23:26

Latte my man, why do you have those nasty cards with all your uber hardware, If you have spent all that mmoney on a 1080p projector I am sure you can splash out on a better GCard, but you won't be playing it at Max res either way. Might as well stick with em until the 9000 series.

Try a moded config file, better visuals and better FPS.

My 24" is fine running at 20" res but the Dells scale well, hard to say how good the chip in the projector is, seeing as they are £1500 up I would hope it is a good en, in which case 720 or is it 768 should look good.

Mr Latte · 31 Dec 2007 at 00:21

MHayes said:
Latte my man, why do you have those nasty cards with all your uber hardware, If you have spent all that mmoney on a 1080p projector I am sure you can splash out on a better GCard, but you won't be playing it at Max res either way. Might as well stick with em until the 9000 series.

Try a moded config file, better visuals and better FPS.

My 24" is fine running at 20" res but the Dells scale well, hard to say how good the chip in the projector is, seeing as they are £1500 up I would hope it is a good en, in which case 720 or is it 768 should look good.

Id appreciate any settings/mods for DX 10 to help me get the best out of it.
I know about the XP and DX9 stuff but hell im on Vista, couldnt be bothered with dual booting etc.

I can splash out on a better card, but quite frankly i dont really think its worth spending £300+ on a card now that still wont run the game the way i want it. Particulary as really very few if any other games at the moment require the power this game requires. It does look absolutely fantastic, really blew me away in its full DX10 in such a grand scale (wouldnt play it any other way) so guess i may wait till newer cards appear that can run the game better and are rather quiet, thats important too.

The projector was 2grand which is pretty much what 1080p models cost and more. This though gets used in many ways and i would have it any day over a similar priced 50" Pioneer Plasma or Sony LCD tv. For instance even playing games like "Gran Turismo 5 Prologue" from 6FT on the 80" screen in a Playseat with a G25 wheel at hand is quite a very enjoyable experience.

Likewise this game would be too as its enjoyable and a visual/audio treat but looks like this ones gonna hae to wait till later as i dont quite fancy 10 fps in 720p
I doubted this game would even fair well at 1280x720 with my spec however i dont thing too many games would bother it too much for now.

Thanks for help

Darg · 31 Dec 2007 at 00:35

For instance even playing games like "Gran Turismo 5 Prologue" from 6FT on the 80" screen in a Playseat with a G25 wheel at hand is quite a very enjoyable experience.

You my friend are the Hugh Hefner of nerds.

Am I mistaken though in thinking you can still run DX9 on Windows Vista? Comparing screenshots between the DX9 hack and DX10 show almost no difference whatsoever apart from the 75%~ increase in FPS in DX9

Mr Latte · 31 Dec 2007 at 01:09

Darg said:
You my friend are the Hugh Hefner of nerds.

Am I mistaken though in thinking you can still run DX9 on Windows Vista? Comparing screenshots between the DX9 hack and DX10 show almost no difference whatsoever apart from the 75%~ increase in FPS in DX9

Sorry, im a nerd because i have a projector?
Or im a nerd because i use a FFB steering wheel with driving games?
Actually im just a casual gamer thesedays...

Like i said earlier, i havnt been a PC gamer for several years so what makes you think id know regards this game and DX9 DX10 with Vista?
Ahh dont mention the "N" word. You miss the point this is currently the graphical peak for gaming in DX10 right? Yes its ahead of the current heardware and drivers still arnt at their best for it.

I may just leave it till i can enjoy the game at its best in at least 720p with AA or 1080 in full graphical detail. Hopefully within not too long a single card will do the job with the rest of my spec.

Plenty of other games to play even if it was nice to finally get around to seeing this.

Darg · 31 Dec 2007 at 01:21

The hugh hefner remark was meant as a compliment but take it how you will, I was simply stating I was envious of your setup.

As for DX9 in windows vista you would know better then me and someone else on here I am sure can set you straight on the matter if you can't find the setting somehow yourself. I'm still on XP myself so don't know the exact method of setting DX9 in vista.

Who cares if it's the graphical peak in gaming in DX10 if it's not runnable? I'm giving you a solution which means you'd atleast be able to run playable very high settings on 720p.

They are graphically almost identical just DX9 will run better.

Learn not to be so defensive when people are trying to help you.

Scania · 31 Dec 2007 at 02:05

Mr Latte said:
One card was bought at the time, annother was added, also they are both silent heatsink cards.

Im not a BIG PC gamer but wouldnt mind seeing some of the more recent games on the Projector offering better than console visuals.

The projector will also accept the following which might help...

WIDE 600 = 1072 x 600
MXGA 70 = 1152 x 864

Is anyone running with dual 8600's ?

For a "not a BIG PC gamer" thats still not a half bad setup you have there! - Crysis runs fine (albeit @ LOW settings) on my 7600GS 256MB - You should do fine!

greeny_fastcar · 31 Dec 2007 at 02:10

Doesn't a 1080p projector have a resolution of 1920×1080?

Mr Latte · 31 Dec 2007 at 02:20

Darg said:
Who cares if it's the graphical peak in gaming in DX10 if it's not runnable? I'm giving you a solution which means you'd atleast be able to run playable very high settings on 720p.

They are graphically almost identical just DX9 will run better.

Learn not to be so defensive when people are trying to help you.

Sorry i assumed you were being kinda sarcy, though calling someone a nerd is hardly a compliment. Generally quite often on these forums some people are a little sarcastic to anyone they feel they want to attack because of maybe something they own etc. Its not that big of a deal anyways many people have much better systems than i have.

Anyways:
I can look into the DX9 thing and see indeed if it changes much but i definately would expect some differences in quality eye/candy with DX10. Comparing screen shots of static images is hardly ideal. Well i dont think its all a whitewash just to get people to upgrade or move to Vista but certainly the hack goes to show to some degree the advantages and performance issues make it all too typical of PC gaming and by that im referring to simple hassle free fun. Id expect beeter DX10 performance to come with the patch and newer drivers anyways.

Id expect DX9 with hack to increase my frames by about 10 on average possibly on XP. Still this wouldnt be enough to enjoy the game in 1280x720 with all the bells and whistles.