Current cards grouped by target resolution

cjgardens · 16 Feb 2022 at 23:53

varkanoid said:
So you just turn up the Scale and Layout percentage in 1440p to make the text bigger.

I've done this for a few years now

Poneros · 17 Feb 2022 at 11:54

60 fps target, high/ultra but no "bugged" settings (f.ex. like clouds @ ultra in AC: Odyssey which barely change the look from high but tank performance 30%), no ray tracing.

720p
6500 XT

1080p
3050, 3060 || 6600/XT:

1440p
3060 Ti, 3070/Ti || 6700 XT, 6800

"Near 4K" (i.e. sometimes you'll need to use FSR Ultra Quality/Quality)
3080/Ti, 3090 || 6800 XT, 6900 XT

DLSS has a different image quality for performance trade off than FSR so I didn't include it, but it would allow the cards to "punch up" more than AMD's, particularly the ones below 4K, but that's not something that has a rule of thumb. Sometimes you could have nice IQ from DLSS (f.ex. 1080p reconstructed to 4K) but you run out of vram, or sometimes the DLSS implementation has excessive artifacts, etc.
I'm sure someone will cry about their 3090 or 6900 XT not being 4K cards but I judge them by how they do in the most demanding games, and none of them can, for example, lock 60 fps @ 4K in Cyberpunk (same now for DL2, and no doubt what's next to come like Avatar etc). Nevermind when you add in ray tracing. Now, there's room to tweak stuff, turn on DLSS/FSR etc but then we have go into more in-depth discussions.

You can use this as a general idea tho, and otherwise it's best to look for benchmark data on individual games you'd be interested in, and if you want ray tracing then you can ignore AMD altogether and focus only on Nvidia, and if you want to keep your card for longer, then you can also pretty much ignore everything from Nvidia bar 3080/Ti & 3090.

Alan McFall · 17 Feb 2022 at 12:53

Poneros said:
if you want to keep your card for longer, then you can also pretty much ignore everything from Nvidia bar 3080/Ti & 3090.

Or put the 3060Ti and 3070 in the 1080p bracket, where they would also be if you're taking raytracing into account.

willhub · 17 Feb 2022 at 12:57

I think the 3090 is more a 3k card now, as new games come out.

Alan McFall · 17 Feb 2022 at 13:33

willhub said:
I think the 3090 is more a 3k card now, as new games come out.

Double entendre !

Darujhistan · 17 Feb 2022 at 16:13

q974739 said:
Evening all. In a number of threads I've seen a number of comments like "6500 is a 1080p card". What cards would people say are "correct" for what target resolutions?

Question arises because I'm probably going to have to buy a new screen(s) Shortly (new job, old will want it's screens back), and this will force me to upgrade my graphics.... and I'm trying to get an idea of price-for-resolution. Which combines graphics and screen, but I'm out the loop on graphics. Current config 2060 @1920x1200(?).

If you can go to 1440p 144HZ, it's really great experience without be crazy expensive. Got for 3060ti/70 or 6700XT at this res, plenty at this resolution.

q974739 · 17 Feb 2022 at 16:50

Darujhistan said:
If you can go to 1440p 144HZ, it's really great experience without be crazy expensive. Got for 3060ti/70 or 6700XT at this res, plenty at this resolution.

I'm just wondering - do we know when the next gen is (realistically) available?

Alan McFall · 17 Feb 2022 at 18:38

q974739 said:
I'm just wondering - do we know when the next gen is (realistically) available?

Realistically Nvidia will launch 4090 in September amd AMD will try and beat them to market.

q974739 · 17 Feb 2022 at 18:39

Alan McFall said:
Realistically Nvidia will launch 4090 in September amd AMD will try and beat them to market.

That's... late enough that it might as well be next year for me. Drat. Fair enough. Might have to ask for Serious Advice shortly

q974739 · 17 Feb 2022 at 18:42

Poneros said:
60 fps target, high/ultra but no "bugged" settings (f.ex. like clouds @ ultra in AC: Odyssey which barely change the look from high but tank performance 30%), no ray tracing.

That's a great summary, thanks. And it does give me an idea of what I'll be spending. Didn't need that first born child anyway...

Darujhistan · 17 Feb 2022 at 19:07

q974739 said:
I'm just wondering - do we know when the next gen is (realistically) available?

This year, there's also an AMD refresh first, but NV and AMD will be relasing new gen this year.

Tired9 · 17 Feb 2022 at 19:49

Alan McFall said:
Or put the 3060Ti and 3070 in the 1080p bracket, where they would also be if you're taking raytracing into account.

My 3070 handles RT really well at 1440P. I run a 170hz monitor.
I still consider 60 FPS completely playable.

Alan McFall · 17 Feb 2022 at 20:14

Tired9 said:
My 3070 handles RT really well at 1440P. I run a 170hz monitor.
I still consider 60 FPS completely playable.

It must be extremely borderline unless you're meaning 60 average, I seem to feel a bit of input lag unless my lows are around 60. ? Are are you using DLSS balanced ?

Tired9 · 17 Feb 2022 at 20:17

Alan McFall said:
It must be extremely borderline unless you're meaning 60 average, I seem to feel a bit of input lag unless my lows are around 60. ? Are are you using DLSS balanced ?

DLSS quality.

RTX 3070 is quite a bit faster than the 3060 Ti at RT.

Alan McFall · 17 Feb 2022 at 20:40

Tired9 said:
DLSS quality.

RTX 3070 is quite a bit faster than the 3060 Ti at RT.

Looked a bit further into this and I stand corrected, it really does pull away significantly in heavy RT games at 1440p !

Poneros · 18 Feb 2022 at 00:43

Darujhistan said:
This year, there's also an AMD refresh first, but NV and AMD will be relasing new gen this year.

But afaik the rumours are that for AMD we get N33 first, which means 6900 XT(ish) performance, so an actual performance jump won't be seen from them until 2023 Q1/Q2 when the MCM N31 arrives for whatever obscene amount of money it ends up costing.

Darujhistan · 18 Feb 2022 at 10:35

Poneros said:
But afaik the rumours are that for AMD we get N33 first, which means 6900 XT(ish) performance, so an actual performance jump won't be seen from them until 2023 Q1/Q2 when the MCM N31 arrives for whatever obscene amount of money it ends up costing.

I just said there's going to be a refresh. Which there is. He's clearly also not looking at the top end of the market like N33 if it's 6900XT performance, he's playing game from years ago (not even got round to Fallout 4 yet) so an extreme GPU is pointless for him now. And you def don't need an top end card to play 1440p.

q974739 · 18 Feb 2022 at 17:36

Darujhistan said:
I just said there's going to be a refresh. Which there is. He's clearly also not looking at the top end of the market like N33 if it's 6900XT performance, he's playing game from years ago (not even got round to Fallout 4 yet) so an extreme GPU is pointless for him now. And you def don't need an top end card to play 1440p.

I've just manged to get to Horizon Zero Dawn? (If got bumped up the list due to recommendations)

Miganto · 18 Feb 2022 at 18:19

q974739 said:
That's... late enough that it might as well be next year for me. Drat. Fair enough. Might have to ask for Serious Advice shortly

Don't forget that the top end comes out first and each further one takes a few months after that, so depending on what you want, it might be over a year/ 18months time until you get what you want.

Darujhistan · 19 Feb 2022 at 10:57

q974739 said:
I've just manged to get to Horizon Zero Dawn? (If got bumped up the list due to recommendations)

And you don't need a an extreme GPU for that.