Cut out image?

SiriusB · 8 Jan 2006 at 19:49

sunlitsix said:
one question about this Polygonal Lasso, does it curve around rounded edges by its self or do you have to keep clicking to get the curved shape?

As far as I know, you gotta keep on clicking

just make sure you don't click too fast or you could close the shape before it is finished :eek:

If you do small increments and take your time you can get stunning results!

SiriusB

sfx · 8 Jan 2006 at 20:01

SiriusB said:
As far as I know, you gotta keep on clicking just make sure you don't click too fast or you could close the shape before it is finished

If you do small increments and take your time you can get stunning results!

SiriusB

You do have to keep clicking yes, but you would be supprise how quite you can get round an image once you have had a few goes.

You can use the Magnetic Polgonal Lasso Tool and that will stick to the edges on it's own and curve for you. But you will find with some images it will stick or jump to where you do not want it to go.

EDIT: Quick tip for the Lasso tool. Well this is what I do anyway. Zoom in to about 300 or 400%, have another copy of the image open at 100% so you can see where you are going as when you are in at 300-400% it is sometimes hard to see if you are on the right lines or not.

Hope this helps,

sfx

SiriusB · 8 Jan 2006 at 20:06

sfx said:
You do have to keep clicking yes, but you would be supprise how quite you can get round an image once you have had a few goes.

You can use the Magnetic Polgonal Lasso Tool and that will stick to the edges on it's own and curve for you. But you will find with some images it will stick or jump to where you do not want it to go.

sfx

Yeah, it really can be quite temperamental sometimes - even on images with a well-defined outline to follow.

The tools you use depends on the image and what you want to extract. All part of the fun lol

SiriusB

divine` · 8 Jan 2006 at 20:10

Pen tool may be more useful for doing curves if you can be bothered to learn it properly.

SiriusB · 8 Jan 2006 at 20:16

divine_madness said:
Pen tool may be more useful for doing curves if you can be bothered to learn it properly.

The Pen Tool, although powerful, is a complete sod. I absolutely hate it lol.

a lot of tutorials I have seen that use the Pen Tool at some point I have usually managed to do without using the Pen Tool at all.

I have yet to see a situation where the Pen Tool is by and far the best option. That isn't to say it doesn't exist

SiriusB

sfx · 8 Jan 2006 at 20:20

divine_madness said:
Pen tool may be more useful for doing curves if you can be bothered to learn it properly.

I have tried many times and failed! Damn that tool, I have even followed step by step tutorials and what they are showing looks really simple. But actually doing it was a different story lol.

I will leave the pen tool to the elite.

sfx

Bash · 8 Jan 2006 at 21:03

Great tips here guys, thanks

Chaos · 9 Jan 2006 at 00:17

The quick mask is also a good tool for this, heres a tutorial on using it -

http://www.idigitalemotion.com/tutorials/guest/mask/mask.html

SiriusB · 9 Jan 2006 at 01:14

Chaos said:
The quick mask is also a good tool for this, heres a tutorial on using it -

http://www.idigitalemotion.com/tutorials/guest/mask/mask.html

Oh cool.. I completely forgot about the Quick Mask! Brilliant

SiriusB

SourChipmunk · 11 Jan 2006 at 12:58

sfx said:
You can use the Magnetic Polgonal Lasso Tool and that will stick to the edges on it's own and curve for you. But you will find with some images it will stick or jump to where you do not want it to go.

Another tip: when that happens, you can use the backspace key to remove the last marker placed. That applies for any of the lasso tools.

Benny · 13 Jan 2006 at 18:15

SiriusB said:
The Pen Tool, although powerful, is a complete sod. I absolutely hate it lol.

a lot of tutorials I have seen that use the Pen Tool at some point I have usually managed to do without using the Pen Tool at all.

I have yet to see a situation where the Pen Tool is by and far the best option. That isn't to say it doesn't exist

SiriusB

Hey folks,

guess I'm a bit late into this topic but I use the pen tool and the bezier curves in photoshop CS. In my opinion it is a good tool to use, especially with the paths palette. This way you can save your selection for future use. Also good for integrating in illustrator etc, you can export paths. These can also be used within Autocad, importing eps files. My profession is in graphic/print design so I use it for all my clipping. All the other methods listed sound like they are doing the trick anyway.

To vbe honest i think the tool isnt all that intuitive. Took me a while to grasp the concept but once you do it is the dogs danglies. The best tool to use is probably th anchor point method.

here is a link to a reasonable tutorial/explanation on the pen tool.

http://www.elated.com/tutorials/graphics/photoshop/paths_pen_tool/

Anyway there is my two bits worth

Benny

SiriusB · 13 Jan 2006 at 18:29

Recently I saw a video tutorial of the pen tool, it was only about 5 minutes but it was the best 5 minutes ever. I now use the Pen Tool quite often for some of my cut outs. I am not pro with it just yet, but it is certainly faster than the lasso and masking methods.

So my stance on the Pen Tool is that it is a complete sod, but once the penny drops you're on your way

SiriusB

Benny · 16 Jan 2006 at 09:21

SiriusB said:
Recently I saw a video tutorial of the pen tool, it was only about 5 minutes but it was the best 5 minutes ever. I now use the Pen Tool quite often for some of my cut outs. I am not pro with it just yet, but it is certainly faster than the lasso and masking methods.

So my stance on the Pen Tool is that it is a complete sod, but once the penny drops you're on your way

SiriusB

Hahahah your right mate it is a sod till the penny drops. I definatley ain't no pro.
Kinda self taught in photoshop. Though the more you plug away the better you get, obviously. It is a common part of my work that we do clipping paths on certain elements of a design job.

I used to work in large format print. Exhibitions stuff. Geeze we used to do the large format debenhams images. The kind large B+W lifestyle things. 300mb scans then we had to clean em up then clip some of them to insert into montages etc. Serious amount of bezier curve action. Hair is the worst to clip.

Anyway im just yarning now.

Benny

SourChipmunk · 16 Jan 2006 at 13:30

Benny said:
here is a link to a reasonable tutorial/explanation on the pen tool.

http://www.elated.com/tutorials/graphics/photoshop/paths_pen_tool/

Anyway there is my two bits worth

Benny

Running through the tutorial now. It looks to be the best detailed of any I've seen. Thanks for sharing!

Benny · 16 Jan 2006 at 13:54

Raist said:
Running through the tutorial now. It looks to be the best detailed of any I've seen. Thanks for sharing!

No problems mate, glad to be of some help. The bezier curves are the ones to master. Especially if you are working in print. As all those individual points you place down have to be interpreted by the rips etc that the artwork is processed through. So the least amount of points is usually best.

Benny