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Cyberpunk 2077 CPU usage & upgrade

Vexr

Vexr

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I have a 2700.

I'm an intermittent gamer, but noticed some CPU bottle necking, especially when setting crowd density to high in Cyberpunk 2077.

I have a 5700 XT. FSR looks imminent for Cyberpunk 2077 (and I've played almost nothing else demanding in the last two years)

Am I right in thinking FSR 2.0+ for my 5700XT + a CPU upgrade (something like a 5700) will be massively transformative?
 
The Ryzen 2000 series are not good CPU's, they were good seeing AMD come back from the FX era, but they are not fast enough.

The 3700X is a good bang / buck chip, I would not go any lower than 8 cores personally as we are seeing shifts in games using them, Spiderman is one of them.
The 5800X3D is obviously the best choice but a 5700X is also a sweet spot choice out of the 5000 series if you can't quite stretch for the 3D chip.

The 5700 is heads and heels faster than the 2700, massive upgrade.

I am loving the fact that the 5700XT is still gaining and getting great support to this very day too.




What board are you on?
 
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I have an MSI B450-A Pro motherboard

I had an FX-8350 once, and saw it collapse as a gaming CPU in Shadow of the Tomb Raider while I had a GTX 1070.

What's the logical move/upgrade for my current system (if any)?
 
Is the 2700 a non-X? You could try clocking it a bit, might help in something like cyberpunk. According to the CPU support page, you appear to have Zen 3 compatibility, but like you said, it will drop some old CPU support. In many games it won't be that big a deal, especially if you pump up the res/settings so the graphics card has more work to do. I'd probably just wait until AM5 launches and see if you can grab a cheap used 5600/5700/5800 from an early adopter.

Given your casual usage, I'm not sure I could be bothered myself, just for one game, but hey-ho...
 
There's really two ways to go. Either value-orientated, a 5600/X, which will still see huge performance gains vs the 2700, or the 5800X3D which will definitely help push you into your monitor's limit and will likely remain a great gaming cpu for the next 4-6 years if not actually even past that and into a new console generation. I will say though, reducing crowd density to medium won't see huge losses in terms of NPC count but will help a lot with performance, especially since in Cyberpunk AMD CPUs tend to do worse than Intel.

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Vexr said:
I have a 2700.


Am I right in thinking FSR 2.0+ for my 5700XT + a CPU upgrade (something like a 5700) will be massively transformative?
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Massively transformative? Nope.

I've a 9900k@5GHz, and I still set the crowd density to medium in CP. Tbh, I even feel the game is better that way, as the "crowd" are pretty fugly and dumb in CP and just get in the way of the fun.

I'd personally stick with what you have for now and live with it. Upgrade next year when you'll have far better options and probably some new games actually worth playing. Who knows, even CP might improve with upcoming patches, although I wouldn't hold my breath at this late stage.
 
CP2077 performance can be a bit all over the place, and for no real rhyme or reason - 2 seemingly identical systems can perform quite different in the game, and though they've done a couple of patches with CPU performance enhancements for AMD they seem to have hand optimised the game/engine for older Intel CPUs. It also loves memory bandwidth - the quad channel on my ageing Xeon allowed it to hang in pretty well against much newer CPUs in that game and ahead of its double channel peers.
 
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Vexr said:
I have a 2700.

I'm an intermittent gamer, but noticed some CPU bottle necking, especially when setting crowd density to high in Cyberpunk 2077.

I have a 5700 XT. FSR looks imminent for Cyberpunk 2077 (and I've played almost nothing else demanding in the last two years)

Am I right in thinking FSR 2.0+ for my 5700XT + a CPU upgrade (something like a 5700) will be massively transformative?
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I assume you are playing with RT off, since you have a 5700xt,right? Without RT the game is actually pretty light on the cpu, its the RT that crushes cpus. So your 2700 should do just fine, i imagine 60fps will be easily achievable. Do you have decent ram?

With rt off my 11600k was getting north of 130fps,so your 2700 should be fine
 
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Ryzen 7 2700 is not the best processor for gaming. And it can be a bottleneck.
It is better to replace with R5 3600 or older.



Your motherboard MSI B450-A Pro supports Ryzen 3000-5000. After BIOS update.
 
nomadd said:
Massively transformative? Nope.

I've a 9900k@5GHz, and I still set the crowd density to medium in CP. Tbh, I even feel the game is better that way, as the "crowd" are pretty fugly and dumb in CP and just get in the way of the fun.

I'd personally stick with what you have for now and live with it. Upgrade next year when you'll have far better options and probably some new games actually worth playing. Who knows, even CP might improve with upcoming patches, although I wouldn't hold my breath at this late stage.
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9900k at 5ghz is a way faster chip than a 2700 LOL.
 
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I assume you are playing with RT off, since you have a 5700xt,right? Without RT the game is actually pretty light on the cpu, its the RT that crushes cpus. So your 2700 should do just fine, i imagine 60fps will be easily achievable. Do you have decent ram?

With rt off my 11600k was getting north of 130fps,so your 2700 should be fine
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Yeah uhm not that the 11600k is not massively faster in IPC too? LOL
 
I went from a 2600X with a 5700-XT to a 5600x then the 5800x, in games that are CPU limited which is a lot of them, the 5600x was a huge upgrade.
If you add on to that I am on a 3070 now, yeah.

A guy on Tom's Hardware with an 8700K was getting half the FPS my 5600X was getting with his 3060 Ti on Destiny 2.
Me and the guy went through all possible routes, I even installed Destiny 2 and did calculations on the differences between a 3070 and 3060 Ti, there was no escaping just how bottlenecked the 3060Ti was with the 8700K.

A lot of deniers would still larp in and tell us both we were wrong though.

I forgot to add, I run 170hz so CPU speed is a bigger impact to me.
 
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