Cycle Scheme working out more expensive?

In fact normal speed limits don't technically apply to bikes because they are not motor vehicles.

amigafan2003 said:
I think he's saying the government wont allow a higher speed/higher power class of ebike unless they can tax it ;-)

Interestingly Finland have just raised he power limit to 1000watts but kept the 25km/h speed limit. That will be great for cargo bikes and for hills.
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A step in the right direction, but a 250W crank motor will do 10mph on a 20% hill no problem, the real problem is the stupid speed limit. At the moment if you get an e-bike to make hills easier you don't get any net benefit because you are now stuck at 15mph on the flat compared to 20+ that you were doing before, because there's no way you're getting those off the shelf 25kg monsters to that speed on pedal power. :p

amigafan2003 said:
There is no such national law.

Is it a posted local bylaw specific to that cycle path, like this one?
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Lol, do those morons not realise that bikes are not fitted with a speedometer? How are cyclists supposed to know what speed they are going? Are they going to arrest joggers too in a police speed check zone?
 
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I know what it was now, it was a thread about cyclists v motorists and I linked a cycle path I use and somebody posted something like 'You do realise you can't ride more than 15 mph on a cycle lane?' and I took it as fact.
 
Cycle lanes are rubbish, too much money/attention has been put into them as opposed to just improving roads for shared use generally.

In my experience they are terrible surfaces, filled with pedestrians (shared use or not), narrow, full of debris because they're not swept, dangerous entrance/exit points and prioritise roads when it comes to junctions.
 
All they need do is widen the roadways and put road markings along the side of each carriageway for cyclists to use, that way everyone can mouch about as they wish without getting in each other's way.
 
I don't even like cycle 'lanes' in the form of lines really. All they do is encourage you to curb hog which isn't always the safest way to ride. It also means other road users tend not to expect you to come out of it, or get angry if you're not in it (even though you might be going 30mph and about to turn right, for example). Bristol has loads but now most of the centre is a 20mph limit they're all a bit redundant anyway.

Slightly wider roads where possible and better education generally does the job.
 
amigafan2003 said:
I think he's saying the government wont allow a higher speed/higher power class of ebike unless they can tax it ;-)

Interestingly Finland have just raised he power limit to 1000watts but kept the 25km/h speed limit. That will be great for cargo bikes and for hills.
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Yup, nail on the head. I wouldn't put it past them!

As for the whole cycle path, lane or on road thing. I cycle wherever I feel it'll be safest for me dependant on what bike I'm on and how fast I'm travelling. As a cyclist it's never easy as you usually have to end up sharing the route you travel and oddly I find pedestrians more hassle than cars.

Anyway we're starting to digress from whether the cyclescheme is still beneficial so I'll bring it back on topic before we all start our monthly car driver / cyclist rant. My answer is still that it is (scheme runner dependant) just do some shopping around to see if you find a deal in a local shop that suits you better.
 
Gixer said:
As for the whole cycle path, lane or on road thing. I cycle wherever I feel it'll be safest for me dependant on what bike I'm on and how fast I'm travelling.
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After constant daily incidents for 21 months, 3 months ago I decided to plan another route that is virtually motorist free but even though it is 1 mile longer I've (touch wood) had no motorist incidents.
The only incidents I have are pedestrians walking into the cycle lane but for some strange reason it doesn't bother me and one bit of road that has the potential for motorist incidents I just look in my mirror and if I see a car behind I mount the pavement.
 
I'm exactly the same Dimple. My shortest route isn't pleasant at all. Early weekend shifts I do it on my road bike as there is hardly any traffic and I can hold a decent speed. During the week however I use the mtb, with big fat knobbly tyres and a weighted bag (this is my idea of how to beast the legs in prep for the road bike :D) and take a route that is just over a mile longer but has naff all traffic and also like you I don't get wound up with pedestrians as I know most are oblivious to anything that is going on around them. The ones that do niggle me tend to be in that age bracket when they are rather hormonal and have a tendency to shout loud noises at you or make ridiculous comments for no apparent reason.

Lycra time for me again now, off to enjoy the sun and shore view on my ride home :)
 
Gixer said:
he ones that do niggle me tend to be in that age bracket when they are rather hormonal and have a tendency to shout loud noises at you or make ridiculous comments for no apparent reason.

Lycra time for me again now, off to enjoy the sun and shore view on my ride home :)
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I used to get that all the time while running but I don't get it while cycling.
I can only put it down to your lycra :D
 
Probably, but the lycra is practical and functional so I'll continue to wear it even on the mtb :D Lycra is against the rules on an mtb so I keep getting told by people but I'm no sheep and will not be turned to follow the rest of the crowd.
 
estebanrey said:
Over £1,000 for a push bike!

You could have bought a decent second hand car for that.
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I got a Forme Longcliffe 2.0 through the cycle to work scheme. It cost £850 and I regularly cycle the 30 miles round trip to work. It works out a lot cheaper than even a bargain £1,000 car. No fuel costs. Extremely low, if any, maintenance and repair costs. Win win as far as I can figure.
 
Dimple said:
After constant daily incidents for 21 months, 3 months ago I decided to plan another route that is virtually motorist free but even though it is 1 mile longer I've (touch wood) had no motorist incidents.
The only incidents I have are pedestrians walking into the cycle lane but for some strange reason it doesn't bother me and one bit of road that has the potential for motorist incidents I just look in my mirror and if I see a car behind I mount the pavement.
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My route through Nottingham is generally bus lanes, which can be quite annoying with all the buses stopping resulting in you having to overtake, but if you can get ahead of a couple they hold each other up so you've nothing that close ahead or behind.

Pedestrians are the worst though. 50% don't look before crossing the road, and those that do just walk out anyway!
 
Taxis are the worst kind of driver in Nottingham.

They NEVER EVER indicate.

At a junction, no indication. Pulling out, no indication. Stopping and doing a U-turn in the middle of the road (happens several times a day), no indication.
 
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