D80 vs 400D ??

Colin_da_Killer · 12 Oct 2006 at 15:27

Please give me your opinions of waht you think as these are the 2 cameras I'm looking into buying as my first dSLR!!

The d80 is my hearts choice but the 400D is my brains choice! :eek:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond80/

vs

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos400d/

cyKey · 12 Oct 2006 at 15:35

D80 vs 30D isn't it? D50 vs 400D. D200 vs 5D. D2x vs 1D.

Colin_da_Killer · 12 Oct 2006 at 15:36

cyKey said:
D80 vs 30D isn't it? D50 vs 400D. D200 vs 5D. D2x vs 1D.

Well no. Not for me.

I either want to spend the extra to get the d80 *if it's worth it* or be safe and cheap and go for the 400D.

That's why I'm comparing these 2. Is the d80 worth the extra £200+ ???

morgan · 12 Oct 2006 at 15:39

I had a 40d for a week and tbh I wasnt all that impressed with the handling. The good thing is the lcd bshowing the settings all the time during shooting, but it felt a bit cheap. Its like a 20d feel compared to the 10d.

whats the price diff to get the 30d?

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:27

morgan said:
I had a 40d for a week and tbh I wasnt all that impressed with the handling. The good thing is the lcd bshowing the settings all the time during shooting, but it felt a bit cheap. Its like a 20d feel compared to the 10d.

whats the price diff to get the 30d?

Again with all these 40D easter eggs!!

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:27

400D and D80 are in different leagues as I was saying on msn. Out of the two I would get the D80. But if canon is your choice. move up the range.

Mp4 · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:49

Would the 400D be a good camera to start off with , if you have no idea about photography?

Colin_da_Killer · 12 Oct 2006 at 17:09

Mp4 said:
Would the 400D be a good camera to start off with , if you have no idea about photography?

Are you saying that for me or for you? I ask that becuase I'm not new to photography. I need this upgrade becuase my s9500 is holding me back.

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 12 Oct 2006 at 17:16

He said it "If you" he wasnt implying you didnt know anything

danza · 12 Oct 2006 at 17:33

Why not consider a 20D?

You can get the 20D for ~£600. TBH I'd try all three in a highstreet retailer and see what you think. Don't buy a camera purely off the back of reviews what ever you do (unless it's a dang good deal then perhaps). Get a feel for them first.

Canon seem to offer more decent low end glass, or did last time I looked. Nikon seem to be slowly progressing though. You can however find used pro glass for pretty good prices on t'bay if you're in the right place at the right time for both Canon and Nikon.

Mp4 · 12 Oct 2006 at 21:00

Colin_da_Killer said:
Are you saying that for me or for you? I ask that becuase I'm not new to photography. I need this upgrade becuase my s9500 is holding me back.

Anyone , Im new at this also tis why i asked

SDK^ · 12 Oct 2006 at 21:10

danza said:
Why not consider a 20D?

You can get the 20D for ~£600. TBH I'd try all three in a highstreet retailer and see what you think. Don't buy a camera purely off the back of reviews what ever you do (unless it's a dang good deal then perhaps). Get a feel for them first.

Good advice

Canon 20D are going for around £500 on e-bay, grab yourself a bagain !!

Mp4 · 12 Oct 2006 at 21:14

so 20D = Better than the 400D?

SDK^ · 12 Oct 2006 at 21:20

Mp4 said:
so 20D = Better than the 400D?

Yes, I would rather have a 20D than a 400D

Mp4 · 12 Oct 2006 at 21:25

Why is this ? Soz trying to learn about these things

as im 99.9% going to buy one. I was going to buy the 400 tomorrow

SDK^ · 12 Oct 2006 at 21:53

Mp4 said:
Why is this ? Soz trying to learn about these things

No probs

These are the main things that I prefer on the 20D over the 400D.

20D - Magnesium alloy body
400D - Plastic Body

20D - Quick Control Dials
400D - Push button controls

20D - 5 frames per second
400D - 3 frames per second

20D - ISO up to 3200
400D - ISO up to 1600

20D - Flash Sync : 1/250
400D - Flash Sync : 1/200

nolimit · 12 Oct 2006 at 22:32

for me the biggest advantage is the 5FPS is just mind blowingly fast!!
also magnesium allow and scroll wheel is nice.

cyKey · 12 Oct 2006 at 22:43

Colin_da_Killer said:
Well no. Not for me.

I either want to spend the extra to get the d80 *if it's worth it* or be safe and cheap and go for the 400D.

That's why I'm comparing these 2. Is the d80 worth the extra £200+ ???

But the 30D is only £10 more. I don't get why your comparing the d80 and 400d when theres a £200 difference.

Colin_da_Killer · 12 Oct 2006 at 23:04

cyKey said:
But the 30D is only £10 more. I don't get why your comparing the d80 and 400d when theres a £200 difference.

I don't know why you don't understand but I will try and explain it differently...

I want a good camera, a dSLR and my budget is not high, my budget is in the 400D range, but, if everyone here thinks the d80 is worth the extra £200 I will try and find a way to get the money and buy the d80.

A popular high street dealer has the d80 + 18-70 lens & tamron 70-300 lens on deal for £850

Otherwise I go for the cheap option of the 400D + 18-55 lens for only £530

The 30D on the other hand comes with just the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 Mkii Lens for £10 more than the d80 with the 2 lenses...

Ultimately, I will have a look at a lot of cameras in the store tomorrow but I'm hoping the advice here will let me in on some insight about the cameras from the users rather than the sales agent.

Balb0wa · 12 Oct 2006 at 23:05

Ive had a 20d 2 yrs now, was a nice camera, messed it up with a sensor clean though so sent to canon for repair. And bought a 400d in the meantime.

Im impressed with the 400d, the size doesnt matter that much but looks silly with my 100-400is on the end, but with smaller lenses its fine.

The pictures so far that ive took are very good, will post them when my uploadit account is working.

My sisters borrowed it a few times to and shes quite snobby about cameras and there size, she prefers metal bodys to plastic ones, and she likes it that much shes buying one. Quite cheap online £497 for the kit lens version , and if you buy with the right bit of plastic, another 5% off, so £472.

The 3 fps , doesnt bother me either, thats plenty, dont miss the extra 2fps, the lcd is nice and big and clear, and the menu system and buttons are great when you get used to them. I was lost after the 20d;,s scroll wheel. Like a fish out of water. But gav it a few days and i was fine.

I really dont know what to do about the 20d though, canon want £380 to fit a new ccd and shutter release button :eek: