Caporegime
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Best we can hope for is that the guards all conveniently decide to go for their cuppa at once, so some proper prison justice can be carried out.
Dad killed 14-month-old baby daughter in 'violent rage' and left bite marks on her body
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Do they say this after they attacked a big man and got beaten up?
I grew up in the 'special schools' for disabled people. The only time these random acts of violence happen is when they have hit someone smaller or vulnerable than them. This red mist never happens against someone bigger and stronger than them, where they have come off worse.
I'm assuming you're a doctor or nurse when you mentioned patients? As any of the red mist people said that after they attacked someone and got beaten up themselves?
The bread and butter of the Legal industry is reoffenders.
Absolutely the last thing they would ever want to do is lock up violent offenders and recidivists indefinitely!
A strictly enforced three strikes rule and life means life sentencing would put a whole ******** of Lawyers out of work!
It will never happen for this reason alone!
pretty sure there is some science behind it.
been there done that got the t-shirt and 2 false teeth. wasn't all one way traffic, though i certainly came off much worse. thankfully as i have gotten older i've learned better to control it and/or walk away from situations where losing control is a possibility.
It's easy to for me to flippantly say he shouldn't have been a parent in retrospect though.
I do think there is a discussion to be had on validity of people to be parents, a non reliance, or non abusive reliance on the state would be one for me. Too easy to pop out baby after baby and the tax payer picks up the cost. Additionally probably the sort who doesn't like immigrants and voted for brexit when said immigrants were the ones supplementing their life choices with their tax payments. But i'm digressing and hugely simplifying.
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Soldato
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Quite often, yes and on more than one occasion. That violence, whether they 'won' or not, is what often landed them in counselling/therapy in the first place.... and in the case of the soldiers, what sometimes got them or someone else shot. It's not just about punching people, but about what that rage makes you do... or rather, what you're unable to realise you shouldn't be doing.
Outside of that, this red mist thing is what often results in the bigger guys being beaten up by the smaller ones, when the latter are 'seeing red'. Humans are quite strong when stressed or pressured.
First time I actually witnessed someone seeing red, was one scrawny guy just choke and pin against the wall another bloke who was a good 6" taller, several stone heavier and a trained Paratrooper. It took several head-hits from the Para's mate to basically dislodge the scrawny guy. The Para said he just couldn't break the guy's grip on him, he was too strong. The former later claimed the red mist thing.
I was a medical administrator, supporting teams of nurses, but also very friendly with the psychology department next door to us. I learned a lot about their stuff and remain good friends with two of the
I actually ended up reading the entirety of DSM IV once. I haven't even read The Bible as thoroughly!
There is, but I obviously wasn't listening properly when it was explained to me.
It's easy to assess the basics, though - Certain key factors, especially in combination, would stack in terms of risk scoring and result in him being denied fatherhood... in this instance the combination of mental issues, medication, alcohol and cocaine. Even if you take a liberal approach and assert that there are medical grounds for the use of all those substances, being that ****** up that you need to snort cocaine two or three times a week shows you clearly have problems that present a danger to children.
Most certainly!
I, for one, would never pass such validation but I'd be happy if they rolled something like that out!!
Errmmmm...... No, I'd say you're starting to lose me on that one...
Now, you may recall I'm not a fan of benefits, benefit claimants in general and the whole welfare state thing, but there are some people with legitimate (sometimes very legitimate) reasons for claiming. Mainly those with disabilities. Unfortunately I worked a few years in that capacity too and saw far more awards going to those who were clearly blagging it but knew how to play the system, while those with honest needs got stuffed by the system.
So what I would say is that the benefits/state/support system needs 'recalibrating' - Much of it should be about short term support and forcing you to recover, rather than enabling you to sit around on your bum popping out kids and living it up.
The benefits situation will never get sorted. What are they going to do, force people to get jobs to support their family? That's political suicide in today's environment - imagine the headlines about Boris forcing families onto the street We're only going to see the state get bigger and bigger, driven by larger amounts of debt.
We're only going to see the state get bigger and bigger, driven by larger amounts of debt.Again i'm over simplifying, i'm talking about the obvious people who abuse the system. It's a personal issue for me, there are those in my family that do it, have abused the system and have never had any inclination to better themselves or their lives as they live on handouts.
It's too nuanced a subject to really discuss easily on a forum. You are right though, it needs recalibration, as there are those with genuine need to rely on the state.
I suppose it depends how badly you want that moneyI do actually think that the tax rules should be modified to encourage extended families (At the very least, anybody sharing a home should have the same tax free inheritance rights as people who share a bed. It is pretty outrageous really that the only way of escaping the tax trap is to have sex with somebody!)
Genuine question why do you think he did it?
Agreed
One of the most responsibile jobs in life.. And anyone can have a crack?
Careful now - with views like that Cummings might want to give you guys a job in number 10:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ts-enforced-contraception-to-curb-pregnancies
I don't know anything about this case and I can't for the life of me understand how anyone could lose their temper like that with a defenceless child but the "red mist" is definitely real.
The first time I experienced it was in my early twenties. It landed an ex soldier from Belfast about 8 years older than me in a coma, and me in court, later to be aquitted, thankfully (also thankfully, he made a full recovery and we became very good friends afterwards. He even offered to stand as a witness in my defence in court).
It didn't happen again until last year, when I began caring for my mother because of what is increasingly looking like a form of dementia. I was very stressed out at the time and was confiding in one of my best mates, telling him about my mother's behaviour, when he began laughing (through ignorance, not malice) and it briefly tipped me over the edge. Thankfully I recognised what was happening to me and I told him to leave before it took over. It literally felt like my head was spinning, not a nice feeling at all.
I've been sober for months now anyway, because of mum's condition and the possibility that I might have to tend to her or drive her to hospital at any time of the day or night, but I wouldn't be drinking now even if that wasn't the case, especially in public. I'm just not in the right frame of mind.
The first time I experienced it was in my early twenties. It landed an ex soldier from Belfast about 8 years older than me in a coma, and me in court, later to be aquitted, thankfully (also thankfully, he made a full recovery and we became very good friends afterwards. He even offered to stand as a witness in my defence in court).
It didn't happen again until last year, when I began caring for my mother because of what is increasingly looking like a form of dementia. I was very stressed out at the time and was confiding in one of my best mates, telling him about my mother's behaviour, when he began laughing (through ignorance, not malice) and it briefly tipped me over the edge. Thankfully I recognised what was happening to me and I told him to leave before it took over. It literally felt like my head was spinning, not a nice feeling at all.
I've been sober for months now anyway, because of mum's condition and the possibility that I might have to tend to her or drive her to hospital at any time of the day or night, but I wouldn't be drinking now even if that wasn't the case, especially in public. I'm just not in the right frame of mind.
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It's pretty crap as far stimulants go, with effects only lasting up to an hour depending on how you take it and how much of it. Of all the drugs I ever did, cocaine was the one I did the least because it was such a waste of money for what the "effects" were. A slight euphoric feeling and talking slightly more animatedly. After using it a few times I understood why people could become coke addicts because you'd have to constantly be shovelling ever increasing amounts of it up your snout for any kind of lengthy effect, so I simply stopped using it... if I wanted stimulants, I took prescription speed in the form of Ritalin or Adderall. Both are prescribed to those with ADHD because of the calming effect it has on them. Doesn't make sense, giving people medical grade amphetamines and stimulants to calm or relax them, but I'm not a scientist. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Soldato
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Give me some downsides of introducing voluntary sterilization for financial incentive on someones 18th birthday.
While your at it, how about this, introducing voluntary euthanasia at 85, the benefit being having your inheritance tax waived.
Mr Cummings, my number is 07...
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