Dads army ?

It was copied, although i do agree with quite a bit of it. That being said, the new T&C blasted by the Daily Fail are rage bait. The new bill is in its second reading in the house, and is a wide ranging addition to legislation. The change is nothing more than a change of terms of service.

I'm one of those that likes to stir the pot :)
 
At school we had the Combined cadet force CCF this was in the nineteen sixties. We had an armoury of Lee Enfield .303 mostly bored down to take .22 for use on our 25 yard range. We did have .303 blanks for exercises and some parade functions. It is quite a long time ago now but i still remember the smell of cordite in the morning.

Most of the teaching staff had served in the second world war or had done national service. My house master was a captain, metalwork a squadron leader, PE an army corporal etc., etc.
We had some pupils who were CCF guys, not as part of our school itself, but who went to cadet units at another (usually private) school. They had every bit of kit under the sun in their own stores, from being issued the latest uniforms to having full-fat SA80s in their on-site armouries, and were complaining about having to go for 'yet another' experience flight in a Harrier or Tornado.
Meanwhile those of us in the volunteer cadet units like ACF and ATC were lucky if we had some old deactivated No4 rifles or an occasional day with a few rounds through an L98 up at Otmoor, had to buy most uniform and kit from our own pockets at surplus shops, and many Air Cadets never actually got to fly in so much as a Chipmunk or Vigilant glider.

My bro-in-law was CCF and his daughter is there currently. Doesn'ty look like much has changed over the decades.
I remember as a regular soldier when we had the sprogs in, you could always tell who was CCF and who were ACF, as the latter put the effort in and always looked/behaved really smart. The CCFers were often (though not always) a messy bag of ********, who just didn't want to be there in the first place, and their adult staff seemed to think that having VRT insignia made them all the bosses of us.
 
We had some pupils who were CCF guys, not as part of our school itself, but who went to cadet units at another (usually private) school. They had every bit of kit under the sun in their own stores, from being issued the latest uniforms to having full-fat SA80s in their on-site armouries, and were complaining about having to go for 'yet another' experience flight in a Harrier or Tornado.
Meanwhile those of us in the volunteer cadet units like ACF and ATC were lucky if we had some old deactivated No4 rifles or an occasional day with a few rounds through an L98 up at Otmoor, had to buy most uniform and kit from our own pockets at surplus shops, and many Air Cadets never actually got to fly in so much as a Chipmunk or Vigilant glider.

My bro-in-law was CCF and his daughter is there currently. Doesn'ty look like much has changed over the decades.
I remember as a regular soldier when we had the sprogs in, you could always tell who was CCF and who were ACF, as the latter put the effort in and always looked/behaved really smart. The CCFers were often (though not always) a messy bag of ********, who just didn't want to be there in the first place, and their adult staff seemed to think that having VRT insignia made them all the bosses of us.


I was at boarding school and CCF was pretty much a compulsory activity. Either army or air force. I flew once in a chipmunk but we also had a bungee launched glider at school (think ten young lads pulling each end of a rubber rope), pretty hairy at times with little safety equipment.

We had to be smart, blancoed belts and gaiters, polished brasswork, boots etc.
 
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