Daniel Morgan's murder

The political system seems to be headed in the wrong direction fast. Breaching the ministerial code seems to happen with far too much impunity now. It's utterly ridiculous to have a home secretary in charge of the police who had to resign after her International development Israeli meetings promoted to home sec, now embroiled in bullying.
 
deuse said:
I think it's about time people vote for the police chief for each county.

If they do a bad job, at least you can vote them out after say 4 years.
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Possibly the worst idea for UK policing in a very long time.

All it does is make the role completely political so something that isn't popular with the "masses" gets ignored, so you get the time, money and manpower spent dealing with things like kids playing ball in the street because it's something that might be unpopular with a lot of people and highly visible, whilst moving resources away from more serious crimes that affect a smaller number of people (or people the public don't think deserve protection)
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It's pretty much the reason the US system is so utterly screwed up in many areas, hundreds of years of policing and prosecutions being based on what can get some populist idiot re-elected rather than actually enforcing the law equally.
 
Of course this will all be swept under the carpet as historical wrongdoing and no reflection on these institutions today and in turn todays most egregious excesses will be suppressed until no one can be held accountable
 
deuse said:
Then you will have to stick with the CPS and police corruption.
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Well it's odd that the CPS was IIRC bought in specifically to help deal with police corruption and the problems you used to get with police ignoring evidence because they throught they'd got the right person (often some local oddball who was an easy target), and the police have fortunately changed a massive amount in the last 34 years in the UK. Unlike the US where they're still having issues we identified as massive problems back in the 80's and took action on, partly because in the US so much of the law enforcement system is based on getting someone reelected as sheriff, DA or judge.
 
Werewolf said:
Well it's odd that the CPS was IIRC bought in specifically to help deal with police corruption and the problems you used to get with police ignoring evidence because they throught they'd got the right person (often some local oddball who was an easy target), and the police have fortunately changed a massive amount in the last 34 years in the UK. Unlike the US where they're still having issues we identified as massive problems back in the 80's and took action on, partly because in the US so much of the law enforcement system is based on getting someone reelected as sheriff, DA or judge.
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The cps is still having problems now.
Not worth the tax payers money.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/202...ope-to-disclose-evidence-to-defendants-report

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2020/jun/30/cps-secretly-dropped-weak-cases-say-rights-groups
"They include statements from dozens of rape victims whose cases were not prosecuted and an account by a CPS whistleblower."
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Probably organised crime, uncovered something that someone didn't want exposed, the conspiracy theorists would have it that bent senior police officers were involved in a coverup at this distance of time who knows.

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I was working in and around Sydenham when this happened, and I remember thinking that the P.I. had maybe trodden on someone in the underworld’s toes, but that was just my conjecture.
I’ve never had much faith in the police since an incident circa some 65 years ago.
I was around 17, hobbling along Southwark Park Road, S.E. London, with low back pain, in company with two friends.
Two cops walked past on the other side of the road, with an Alsatian on a leash.
One of my friends thought it funny to sing out, “One man and his dog, went to mow a meadow.”
The cops started across the road, and my two friends fled.
One cop said to me, “Why are you bent over?”
I said, “I have low back pain.”
The other cop said, “Who sang “One man and his dog?”
I lied, “I don’t know mate.”
He punched me hard in the mouth, saying, “I’m not your ****ing mate”, then they walked away.
When I got home, claret all down my shirt, and a fat lip, my mother went nuts.
I told my parents the truth about what happened, and my father went to Lower Road Police Station to report it.
They categorically denied that two cops with a dog were on patrol in Southwark Park Road that night.
That was the end of that.
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Terminal_Boy said:
Not going to happen until they start being jailed for abusing their positions.
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Jailing is probably a bit much to expect but I really do think that Cressida Dick should be sacked, too much has gone wrong on her watch - the fatal shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes; the shambolic, insensitive policing at the vigil for Sarah Everard and now the failure promptly to provide information to an inquiry into Police corruption.

As to "Politicians" to whom you were perhaps referring, I really do think that they should be made answerable for completely ignoring their manifestos - in any other walk of life that would be obtaining benefit under false pretenses - i.e. fraud :mad:
 
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