Dark days, AMD share price at lowest ever.

Geck0 · 22 Nov 2017 at 10:25

I'M POTATOFENDED BY THAT>

Dicehunter · 22 Nov 2017 at 10:27

Geck0 said:
I'M POTATOFENDED BY THAT>

Lol XD

jigger · 22 Nov 2017 at 11:05

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
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You do realise its not the dGPU report but the one including IGPs too,right??

I mean dude,its in the article you just quoted:

Have you noticed how AMD APU sales on the desktop have not been mentioned?? I suspect they are not selling well at all,since the basic CPU uarch is ancient now.

The dGPU one is probably another kettle of fish,so AMD has lost share relative to Nvidia,but this is also in a quarter where they shipped more dGPUs each too.

Also,this:

More systems are now having a dGPU which is quite interesting. It might be possibly down to Ryzen sales and why Nvidia was so enthusiastic in embracing it.

Lack of IGP= good for Nvidia and AMD.

More people are buying CPU's without integrated graphic and now the market requires more video cards. Seems straight forward enough to me. AMD have started some growth again in the PC market especially graphics demand.

Still a lot of work for AMD to close the gap Intel enjoy, as they pretty much have the graphics market in check. Need those mobile and desktop APU's

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 30 Jan 2018 at 22:19

Looks like AMD beat Q4 estimates:

https://techreport.com/news/33184/a...al-2017-with-another-fully-profitable-quarter

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 26 Apr 2018 at 13:31

AMD also beat Q1 estimates too:

https://techreport.com/news/33562/amd-enjoys-massive-revenue-and-profit-growth-in-q1-2018

shankly1985 · 26 Apr 2018 at 13:46

Doomed

CaptainRAVE · 26 Apr 2018 at 14:04

Hopefully they will use some of that income to develop a decent GPU.

Wrinkly · 26 Apr 2018 at 14:16

CaptainRAVE said:
Hopefully they will use some of that income to develop a decent GPU.

580 beats 1060, Vega 56 beats 1070 and Vega 64 beats 1080. All current and previous gen AMD cards support Freesync. I think they have a lot of the market covered

https://wccftech.com/amd-has-working-7nm-gpus-running-in-labs-sampling-later-this-year/

nashathedog · 26 Apr 2018 at 14:55

Wrinkly said:
580 beats 1060, Vega 56 beats 1070 and Vega 64 beats 1080. All current and previous gen AMD cards support Freesync. I think they have a lot of the market covered

Beats? I haven't took a lot of interest in performance over the last month or so but beat certainly wasn't accurate the last time I looked, When I had a V64 it had a win some & lose some relationship with a 1080, Competitive performance yes but, it's not competitive when pricing's taken into account. Today you can get a 1080 for less than a Vega 56, or you can go for a 1070ti which is faster than a Vega 56 while being available for roughly £100 less
Mining is why AMD's done so well with profit & growth, Ryzen too but mainly mining and if like me you've been doing a daily stock watch at various online outlets all year you'd know that sales slowed down months ago. Over the last few months we've had various news outlets claiming there's still a lack of stock when the truth is there hasn't been and now the retailers are slowly accepting that and dropping prices. It started to make me wonder if some etailers were paying sites like WCCF to make articles where they claim there's a lack of stock when there wasn't to keep sales moving.

Rroff · 26 Apr 2018 at 15:00

Wrinkly said:
580 beats 1060, Vega 56 beats 1070 and Vega 64 beats 1080. All current and previous gen AMD cards support Freesync. I think they have a lot of the market covered

https://wccftech.com/amd-has-working-7nm-gpus-running-in-labs-sampling-later-this-year/

As you can currently have a 1080 and change for the price of the Vega 56 never mind 64 though... if you shop around a bit you can get the 1070 for almost £180 less than the Vega 56 (actual instock right now).

They also don't comprehensively beat those GPUs though its a tough case to make for a 1060 over a 580. Though some newer games the Vega cards hold up very well.

Hotwired · 26 Apr 2018 at 15:20

Vegas problem is its ticket price.

It can put out good performance but using the measure of fps in games it costs notably more than the equivalent fps Nvidia option.

Since Vega costs more to make than Nvidias 1080s there is no helping the price issue. It would be actual insanity to try to match or undercut. Its there if you want it and the price isn't an issue but it will never be a budget choice. It can't be.

The 580 is fine and if they could make them any faster I'm sure they would.

But this is a very stale topic really.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 26 Apr 2018 at 15:27

The main issue with Vega 56 and 64 is the production costs AFAIK.

RavenXXX2 · 26 Apr 2018 at 15:27

Plenty of Vega gathering dust on the shelves due to stupid pricing, ain't no on one buying them power hogs when you can have cheaper and just as fast and way more power efficient Nvidia cards. Vega56/64 are duds.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 26 Apr 2018 at 15:32

CaptainRAVE said:
Hopefully they will use some of that income to develop a decent GPU.

They have put some of the people who worked on Zen on the GPU side now,and IIRC they have started to increase funds allocated for that side too. OTH,I suspect it will still be some time to see the effects of that,unless its for finishing some existing projects faster.

Doogles · 26 Apr 2018 at 15:37

RavenXXX2 said:
Plenty of Vega gathering dust on the shelves due to stupid pricing, ain't no on one buying them power hogs when you can have cheaper and just as fast and way more power efficient Nvidia cards. Vega56/64 are duds.

Yeah not only that but they released too late, I want AMD for Freesync but I bought the 1070 and it took them around 18 months to come close to it performance wise, I'll see what AMD brings to the table next time around had always had AMD cards until recently.

LoadsaMoney · 26 Apr 2018 at 15:47

Gathering dust as the mining bubbles burst now, and ASIC machines are here.

humbug · 26 Apr 2018 at 17:14

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
AMD also beat Q1 estimates too:

https://techreport.com/news/33562/amd-enjoys-massive-revenue-and-profit-growth-in-q1-2018

A fantastic quarter for AMD, a healthy AMD is good for everyone, lets hope this signals the bad days are behind them

Satchfanuk · 26 Apr 2018 at 18:00

LoadsaMoney said:
Gathering dust as the mining bubbles burst now, and ASIC machines are here.

From what I've seen, the hash on the ASIC miner from Bitmain for ETH isn't really all that impressive at 180MH/s for $2150. You can do the same hash with a 6 x RX580 mining rig.

EL_JOCK · 26 Apr 2018 at 18:45

Satchfanuk said:
From what I've seen, the hash on the ASIC miner from Bitmain for ETH isn't really all that impressive at 180MH/s for $2150. You can do the same hash with a 6 x RX580 mining rig.

I thought they were $800 direct, which changes that ball game big time....people might be selling their pre-order for $2150 on the bay but that's not the normal price

Wrinkly · 26 Apr 2018 at 20:00

nashathedog said:
Beats? I haven't took a lot of interest in performance over the last month or so but beat certainly wasn't accurate the last time I looked, When I had a V64 it had a win some & lose some relationship with a 1080, Competitive performance yes but, it's not competitive when pricing's taken into account. Today you can get a 1080 for less than a Vega 56, or you can go for a 1070ti which is faster than a Vega 56 while being available for roughly £100 less
Mining is why AMD's done so well with profit & growth, Ryzen too but mainly mining and if like me you've been doing a daily stock watch at various online outlets all year you'd know that sales slowed down months ago. Over the last few months we've had various news outlets claiming there's still a lack of stock when the truth is there hasn't been and now the retailers are slowly accepting that and dropping prices. It started to make me wonder if some etailers were paying sites like WCCF to make articles where they claim there's a lack of stock when there wasn't to keep sales moving.

Rroff said:
As you can currently have a 1080 and change for the price of the Vega 56 never mind 64 though... if you shop around a bit you can get the 1070 for almost £180 less than the Vega 56 (actual instock right now).

They also don't comprehensively beat those GPUs though its a tough case to make for a 1060 over a 580. Though some newer games the Vega cards hold up very well.

Remember, my original post -

Wrinkly said:
580 beats 1060, Vega 56 beats 1070 and Vega 64 beats 1080. All current and previous gen AMD cards support Freesync. I think they have a lot of the market covered

https://wccftech.com/amd-has-working-7nm-gpus-running-in-labs-sampling-later-this-year/

Was in reply to -

CaptainRAVE said:
Hopefully they will use some of that income to develop a decent GPU.

Vega on it's own is a little pricey, if you ignore the savings gained with Freesync. I still think AMD have some decent GPUs.