DDC PUMPS
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Basically the D5 and DDC pumps were both designed by Laing. Every one you see is either produced by Laing for the stated manufacturer, or produced by the stated manufacturer under license. The only differences will be the pump top, and features like PWM or Vario.
oh ok i just wondered as the pumps i mentioned are rated at max flow 1000lph and the likes of a Laing original pump DDC-1RT/Plus are rated at 500lph, just thought there might be a diffence, im just looking for a quiet ddc thats all.
im just looking for a quiet ddc thats all.
doesn't (quite) exist lol.
get a d5 if you want quietness
Really? bought a DDC 18w recently and seeing as they are quite popular I assumed it was at least be pretty quiet .. have I made a mistake
not built my loop yet still gathering partsThe 18W DDC is the most powerful (that I'm aware of unmodded) and so it spins the fastest (about 4500rpm IIRC) hence it's the loudest. However how loud greatly depends on how you mount it and if/how you control it. EK do a heatsink kit for it which works quite nicely - depending on the speed of the pump and the restriction of the loop, they can get quite hot. This has the bonus of providing some mounting holes on the bottom and they provide some rubber mounts to bolt it down with. They could do with being softer rubber to absorb more noise but they don't do a bad job. At full speed I can hear mine but it's not like a fan at full speed and only annoys me because I've got some sort of bee in my bonnet about having it silent.
The other thing you can do is run it at less than full speed. You may be able to do this with PWM if the pump supports it or you can change the voltage. Some fan controllers can supply enough power to run an 18W pump (Aquaero 6 springs to mind but pricey) but check the spec first as most cannot. It's also possible to run it off a 7V mod quite successfully. Mine started every time when I ran it that way but check yours does as it is below spec'd voltage range. Completely silent at that speed but obviously performance is a lot less. What effect that will have on temps depends on your setup and what you're doing. Mine runs fine at 7V and temps are perfectly good. 12V gets me a few degrees lower temps. I tend to run mine about 8V now.
The other thing you can do is run it at less than full speed. You may be able to do this with PWM if the pump supports it or you can change the voltage. Some fan controllers can supply enough power to run an 18W pump (Aquaero 6 springs to mind but pricey) but check the spec first as most cannot. It's also possible to run it off a 7V mod quite successfully. Mine started every time when I ran it that way but check yours does as it is below spec'd voltage range. Completely silent at that speed but obviously performance is a lot less. What effect that will have on temps depends on your setup and what you're doing. Mine runs fine at 7V and temps are perfectly good. 12V gets me a few degrees lower temps. I tend to run mine about 8V now.
interesting, I have a lamptron FC6 and the pump can be controlled via 3pin or molex
the lamptron FC6 is upto 20w / channel so I could just plug it up to that and turn it down right?
Should I get the heatsink kit for the pump its £15 from a competitor , I'd rather have peace of mind than blow my pump (just saw a horror story of a ddc 18w that blew up literally on OC3DTV forums)
the lamptron FC6 is upto 20w / channel so I could just plug it up to that and turn it down right?
Should I get the heatsink kit for the pump its £15 from a competitor , I'd rather have peace of mind than blow my pump (just saw a horror story of a ddc 18w that blew up literally on OC3DTV forums)
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From what I've read, how much heat the DDCs produce is dependent on the flow rate. There was an article on Martin's Liquid Lab but I think the site has now gone. If you haven't got a better way of mounting the pump the heatsink solves two problems. When
I was running it at 7V it wasn't a problem but there was some sign of melting on the squidgy pad I had under it before the heat sink and I suspect that was from the rare times I'd switched it up to 12V.
You can control it with the lamptron if it will do 20W but it may get quite hot as 18W is pretty close to its max capacity. As long as you have some air flow round the Lamptron it will probably be fine.
Looking at the EK-DDC 3.2PWM though it can do PWM so you can power it from the molex and control the speed with the 4-pin header from your motherboard (or a fan-controller that does PWM).
I was running it at 7V it wasn't a problem but there was some sign of melting on the squidgy pad I had under it before the heat sink and I suspect that was from the rare times I'd switched it up to 12V.
You can control it with the lamptron if it will do 20W but it may get quite hot as 18W is pretty close to its max capacity. As long as you have some air flow round the Lamptron it will probably be fine.
Looking at the EK-DDC 3.2PWM though it can do PWM so you can power it from the molex and control the speed with the 4-pin header from your motherboard (or a fan-controller that does PWM).
I have the EK-DDC 3.2 PWM X-RES 140 and have it set on the the CPU header on my Asus Gene VII. I was worried about the noise aspect which many people have stated, but with a anti vibration mat underneath, I have been surprised at how quite it is. My fans make more noise.
I do suspect that as I do not really push my system (I do not bench), this type of pump is fine and the D5 would be better if you stress the system more.
I do suspect that as I do not really push my system (I do not bench), this type of pump is fine and the D5 would be better if you stress the system more.
I had the Swiftech MCP35x PWM Pump cracking bit of kit on a x58 920:4.2GHz temps were very good depending on the amout of Radiator used.
It failed after about 3years and it was my vault, wether your benching or normal 24/7 use PWM function was spot on.
As for noise it depends on the software used, if the EK-DDC 3.2 PWM is a copy l would recommend it.
It failed after about 3years and it was my vault, wether your benching or normal 24/7 use PWM function was spot on.
As for noise it depends on the software used, if the EK-DDC 3.2 PWM is a copy l would recommend it.
I have 2 DDC pumps, 1x10W for my cpu loop and 1x18W for my gpus loop, I'm running them at 10V and I cannot hear anything coming from the pumps, even at 12V you almost cannot hear them, my head is 80cm far from my computer the only noise I can hear from my pc is the fans at 1200rpm or more and sometimes the HDDs clicking.
Also I'm using the EK heatsink on both pumps, I have temperature sensors on both heatsinks and usually they don't go over 32C.
Be careful if you are going to use the heatsink with tops or attached to revervoir, sometimes you will need to replace the screws that comes with them, so make sure you get the right size.
Also I'm using the EK heatsink on both pumps, I have temperature sensors on both heatsinks and usually they don't go over 32C.
Be careful if you are going to use the heatsink with tops or attached to revervoir, sometimes you will need to replace the screws that comes with them, so make sure you get the right size.
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im getting a bitspower ddc res upgrade kit, so it comes with all the screws plus im getting the bitspower or EK heatsink case for ddc pump, at the moment my fans only spin at 500/600rpm so im trying to keep everything quiet as i can.