DDR5 for gaming

[Mr G]

I've been researching into DDR5 and can't make no sense of it all lately with conflicting feedback suggesting faster with loose timings then slower with tight timings.

I don't benchmark and mainly use my PC for gaming, I've have been looking at a TeamGroup kit at 6000MHz CL30 for £289 which is expensive but is it worth it?

 

[Mr G]

Thanks for that informative post and I've book marked it for future reference. I'll hold for now and see what the future brings as prices do seem to be dropping weekly.

@Journey - What good 5600MT/s kits do you recommend? I've seen many ADATA kits but unsure on the naming scheme they use to identify the kits suggested above... this would give me a better idea on what to search for.

 

[Mr G]

Which cpu are you planning to get ?

AMD have auto tuning for there memory and reckon 6000mhz is the sweet spot for Zen 4

Looking to build another Intel system for a family member. Will be an F-SKU CPU on another B660 or perhaps if a decent deal arises on a K-SKU CPU on a Z690.

Absolutely not. Don't waste your money. RAM is defintely one area in gaming you can cheap out on. A £150-£200 kit will suit you don't need any more than 5600 either, and 4800 would probably be fine.

Don't plan to waste money but currently looking at a 5600 MT/s CL36 kit (36-36-36-76) by Corsair.

 

[Mr G]

I have found a kit of Corsair Vengeance 5600 CL36 for £184.99. Also found a kit of Kingston FURY Beast RGB 5600 CL36 for £177.36, all 32GB kits.

Not sure whether to proceed with the purchase or hold the line for a few more months before finalising the build.

 

[Mr G]

By F SKU, I assume you mean non-K not -F which just indicates no integrated GPU. The value it disappearing fast in the lower end parts due to price increases, OCUK want £199 for a 12400F, which is bonkers really considering the other options on the market as well.

It is going to be primarily a gaming system, but will it also be used as a do anything machine as well?

I paid £165 for my 12400F and I can't fault it at all. The PC will be purely for gaming and general internet usage etc.

 

[Mr G]

If you don’t mind the cost, DDR5 is fine.

It’s poor value but it’s fine.

I would personally get the cheapest DDR5 kit possible as recent news articles point out that the price of DDR5 has fallen quite a lot over the past year.

Just know that there will always be newer, cheaper and faster tech down the road but if you want to play games now, you need to buy now.

I find DDR4 fine for my needs but I’m a seriously value orientated buyer who doesn’t want to spend £200 on a kit of RAM.

I’ve got a good dual rank 32gig DDR4 Samsung D die kit I spent £80 on that’s sort of far off high end RAM but far far cheaper.

Sticking with DDR4 for now until I actually see a huge benefit for it.

 

[Mr G]

Decided to dive in again... I'm potentially looking to buy into the AM5 platform very soon, AMD say the sweet spot is 6000 and have spotted a few of these CL36 EXPO kits floating around at £162. @Gibbo - Seen a few lower prices on Kingston memory, 6000 CL36. Any upcoming price reductions?

 

[Mr G]

Yes, on the 15th there will be a huge price reduction on everything….also, the earth will end in 2012.

Can I borrow that crystal ball you use?

 

[Mr G]

Sure but they gave them on sale at Lidl

I prefer the Aldi version, more accurate than Lidl.

 

[Mr G]

Price reductions on Black Friday if you want to wait a bit!

Probably be reduced to a reasonable level however, it ain't bad now as most kits I'm looking at are around £150 now. Might not hurt to wait that bit longer.

 

[Mr G]

I saw a video that benchmarked different ram speeds, 6000 ones are definitely faster (if it's not fake)

I've got corsair 6000 ones myself

Interesting, what do you have this paired with?

 

[Mr G]

Asus X670E-F Gaming WiFi

the E" Version is way to much more

Always is... how's the compatibility, boot times etc? Hearing soo much about slow boot and memory issues.

 

[Mr G]

Shadow of the Tomb Raider
from 4800 to 6000 is around 40 fps !

but its early days yet

Can these videos be trusted thou?

 

[Mr G]

Just purchased a kit of G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB 6000MHz CL36 (36-36-36-96).

Checked for full compatibility with Intel and seems to tick all the boxes XMP wise - F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RK

Now memory is sorted, need to grab a decent board to pair with my 13600K.

 

[Mr G]

5600 seems to be the price/performance sweet spot but 6000 is the sweet spot for AMD 7x CPU's. Intel can use much faster RAM but it’s expensive. Think you would only notice the difference between 4800 and 6000 if you have a high refresh display 144Hz+.

1440p 165Hz with a 4080.

 

[Mr G]

With top end Vs mid range RAM (and SSDs) there will be negligible difference outside of benchmarks IMO. Very much into diminishing returns.

When you can get 32gb 6000mhz CL32/CL36 for £160ish, I think the additional £130 can be put to better use.

Indeed and already have...

 

[Mr G]

7800X3D... what motherboard, what memory?

Leaning towards the MSI Tomahawk B650 but unsure on the memory to pair with it.

 

[Mr G]

Depends on what features you want really, since there isn't really any boards that will give you any extra performance.

RAM some 6000 MT/s stuff, from about £95 for 2x 16GB with Hynix chips for easy timing tightening.

I think the MSI would fit the bill nicely and has the features I need however, what memory/brand do you suggest?

 

[Mr G]

This is what i use its on the QVL. Hard to find tho.

G.skills

F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N​

6000mhz cl30

I have the F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RK but not sure if this set would work with AMD?

 

[Mr G]

Its supported so your good.

MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI

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I keep forgetting to do that... happy days, just the chip and board for me then!

Any news on the fix for the 7800X3D burn outs?