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VeNT

VeNT

VeNT

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oh god whats going on?
I've got my nice new PC here,
E6300
1gig Geil Ultra Low Latency
DS3
x1900XT 256 (power connector connected!)
sony DVD-RW
Seasonic S12 500W
eclipse case

put it all togeather, turned it on, set the ram to +0.3 so its at the right voltage, changed date to correct one, did all those little things you do etc

put my Windows XP Pro cd in, started installing on the new unformatted drive
windows starts to copy the install drivers across and then ERROR!
Rio8drv.sys unable to copy.

ho hum I think, bad CD! take cd out, check for scratches, seems ok, put OTHER win xp pro cd in, press enter to try again, ERROR! Rio8drv.sys unable to copy.

odd I think. ESC skip file.

ERROR, Unable to copy [ESC] ERROR, Unable to copy [ESC]

about 5-6 files unable to copy, nothing that seems that important (rio8drv is a usb driver for somthing or other) but once its finshed the rest of the install shows signs of being buggered.
device manager says that the mouse doesn't work (usb wheel mouse optical) and that loads of bits and bobs arn't installed properly, like the DVD RW drive (its all in correctly, I checked, twice.)
so I think oh well, lets try this install again
tryed again, same errors. different disk.

ideas guys? if I twas an old Athlon XP system I'd probalby go into ram and slacken off the timings, but theres about 10 here and I dunno what half of them are supposed to be! (rams quoted as 4-4-4-12 but what ones what!

I also tryed to run UBUNTU linux, but that sticks at the "loading linux ok loading kernal" and doesn't do anything after that (both the 64bit and 32bit!)

realy could use a hand! wanna get this bad boy running!
 
/me crys more

don't say that! the ninjas fan was bashed up so I've already had to contact them once!
I've run memtest, it seemed ok got to like 75% so far.
I'll leave it running it overnight.
 
BillytheImpaler said:
What's the model number of the RAM? I'm trying to look it up.
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its the stuff that comes with the bundle deal from Ocuk
err 1s
GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX21GB6400UDC) (MY-057-GL)

my first thought was the ram, but memtests not showing anything up :confused:
 
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bledd. said:
try another cd drive, or different cd media, and another ide cable
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yup tried that last night
same effect
I just don't get why its the SAME files every time :confused:

I wonder if its these CDs, their both from the college who run a thing where if your on a MCSE/A etc you can buy licences etc for 99% of MS Software (not office) for £5 a pop, full legit but you have to copy the CDs yourself :(
 
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TrUz said:
Have you tried a different HDD? Are you using SATA or IDE?

TrUz
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SATA hard drives, as theres only 1 IDE port :(
I've tried TWO SATA drives (one new, one older) both same issue, same place.
ones pre-formatted (NTFS - Backup drive) ones not and has been formated new every try
I'll try a full format tonight when I get back, rather than the quick formats I've been tring

TheMightyTen said:
Sounds more like a borked copy of the cd to me. Change the brand of CD you're using.
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Verbatim not ok?
 
z0mbi3 said:
There's your problem right there. Failing that it's divider time. That said I don't know how dividers work with this intel malarky.

If the ram will work after messing with the settings but not at stock then its time to RMA it.

Would also suggest you reset the bios , do nothing but set the time and then try an install. If you haven't tried any OCs then its got to be the ram.
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ram states it requires 2.1V to run at SPD speeds, so thats +0.3 on the DS3 board (sotck is 1.8 iirc)
I've got some time this afternoon, I'll give it all another go now
 
Captain Fizz said:
Now you are back online... Could you check to see if "Rio8drv.sys" happens to be on the SATA drivers disk?
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nope
not there, also google says their USB drivers for somthing.
would it be worth flashing the bios to latest vertion, just to see if that fixes anything?
also SATA doesn't need the F6 windows install part as its in IDE mode rather than SATA raid
 
ok, new CD, different iso, different CD Writer, different cable for everything, different DVD drive for reading it, CD verifyed after write, everything seems to check out
and here are the files it can't copy

rio8drv.sys
riodrv.sys
tosdvd.sys
ks.sys
modem.sys
swenum.sys
mf.sys
mssmbios.sys
sonydcam.sys
stream.sys
mouclass.sys

ideas?
 
BillytheImpaler said:
VeNT, do you have another working machine with which you can fiddle?

Make a new ~5 GiB partition on the working machine's hard disk. Turn it off and swap in the new CPU and motherboard. If you have some known-working DDR2 around, use that. Otherwise use the new DDR2. Try to install Windows on the machine now. If it works perhaps we can absolve of guilt the motherboard, CPU, and perhaps the RAM.
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sadly, all I've got is Athlon XP and Athlon 939 systems here, no other DDR 2, and only one other SATA motherboard (systems in bits atm) or I'd of done that

and infact, the 939 systems motherboards dead.

ok, its not given me that error I normaly get after the reboot (did get the copy errors) so it may just work, going to see if its doing it now, if not I'll try upping the rams Voltage a bit more, just incase that sorts it.
if it does I'll RMA the ram when I get my next order in (need to order another pc once I get the 2nd half of the insurance payments)

any DS3 owners out there wanna reach in and tell me how hot their north bridge cooler is?
 
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BigAl said:
Have you seen this?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=114361&highlight=ds3+install

looks like it could be the memory unfortunately. :(
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he's getting different files each time tho, same ones every time here!

ok windows install finished, but the install was so screwed up its not able to recognise the DVD drive or even the PS2 mouse.
two of the files must relate to the plug and play system as theres two items down that end of device manager that are failed to install, but ofcorse no dvd = unable to install any drivers off the windows XP cds!
 
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ok, just installed windows 2000 prof
install goes fine, 0 issues/errors
BUT
pc boots to windows, logs in, desktop loads, 3 2 1 crash,
not virus, not connected to network, nothing else installed, just falls over and reboots.
ram?
memtest runing AGAIN, no errors so far.
 
Peace said:
I would make sure that the Bios is updated and also try and use only one stick of Ram when you install windows.
I had a similar issue but in my case it was the hard drive....
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tried with one stick of ram, tried each stick individualy.
same errors each time.
tryed 2 hard disks,
same errors each time
tryed EACH DRIVE with each ram combo
same errors each time.

its odd that windows 2k pro installed without the same errors :confused:
 
no spair DDRII sadly
I'm gonna have to order my other pc soonish, just godda wait for the cheque.
so its down to, do I RMA the motherboard, ram and processor or wait for the cheque to arrive/clear and then order other pc and test parts?
former would be quicker, but latter would be cheaper.
 
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BillytheImpaler said:
Are there any other OcUK'ers in Cornwall that could lend you a hand on the DDR2 front? If I was fewer than 3000 miles away I'd let you borrow a stick for testing purposes.
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I know you would dude!
don't worry, I'll order the parts this weekend and get it up and running next week.
its just annoying as I wanted to try out that new GPU folding over this weekend :(
 
mmm
hows this for a strange occurance
I've just tryed to install windows XP onto another PC using these CDs, and I get nearly exactly the same errors when installing (most of the same files).
these CDs where working, but I'm starting to think their not now!

does anyone have an img file for windows XP pro they could send my way? I've the CD keys/licences for them I just need the disk image!
 
please read a thread before replying
I'm checking this new CD out on another pc, if it installs ok on there but not on the new system then I'll know its not the CDs.
I've ditched the other older CDs just incase it was them.
 
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