Death. Plain and simply.

"The Way of the Samurai is found in death. Meditation on inevitable death should be performed daily. Every day, when one's body and mind are at peace, one should meditate upon being ripped apart by arrows, rifles, spears, and swords, being carried away by surging waves, being thrown into the midst of a great fire, being struck by lightning, being shaken to death by a great earthquake, falling from thousand-foot cliffs, dying of disease or committing seppuku at the death of one's master. And every day, without fail, one should consider himself as dead. This is the substance of the Way of the Samurai."
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PK!
 
Goatyman said:
Do you believe that Euthanasia is an option?
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I believe it should be available to people in the UK who have a terminal illness, yes. Although having said that, euphanasia slightly terrifies me, as it's basically a lethal injection and there is a lot of controversy around wether or not it's extremely painful.
 
Death is the one experience everyone will have at some stage in our lives, no exceptions!

I guess there are two distinct sides to the discussion, the first being what does it feel like to die and the second being what (if anything) does our supposed soul experience after death?

Q1 is probably fairly easy. Despite exotic stories of people floating above their bodies after car accidents or during operations, i.e. being clinically dead, there is no real of proof. When my mother had her first heart attack and was actually clinically dead for a short while, she described the experience as like an old TV going off - just black with a white dot getting smaller and smaller.

Before my father died just before Christmas, he told me he could not stop himself falling asleep and would wake up after several hours had passed. He felt very tired and weak.

So I think it's fair to conclude that the actual process of dying of natural causes (as opposed to getting flattened by a bus, or stabbed in the neck by a mugger) is a relatively peaceful experience - probably not unlike undergoing a general anaesthetic. A great tiredness overwhelming which you cannot fight off. In other words, probably not too unpleasant.

As regards afterwards, well that very much depends on your belief system. Maybe you do indeed float away, transformed into some ethereal creature traversing the universe. Or our mortal soul is somehow reborn into another person/time. There are just so many variables - are there enough unexplained occurrences of ghostly phenonema to conclude that *something* must survive beyond the body?

Or is our whole perception of existence totally wrong. What we regard as life and the universe can be viewed in the context of how an ant sees the world around its nest?
 
Vern1961 said:
Death is the one experience everyone will have at some stage in our lives, no exceptions!

I guess there are two distinct sides to the discussion, the first being what does it feel like to die and the second being what (if anything) does our supposed soul experience after death?

Q1 is probably fairly easy. Despite exotic stories of people floating above their bodies after car accidents or during operations, i.e. being clinically dead, there is no real of proof. When my mother had her first heart attack and was actually clinically dead for a short while, she described the experience as like an old TV going off - just black with a white dot getting smaller and smaller.
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Thats very interesting. Kinda sent a shiver up my spine after i read it and imagined it myself.
 
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I am just gutted I wont see the future and all the technology will eventually be.
 
Kerplunk said:
When i die I wanna come back as a fly, then I can be that darn fly on the wall
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Whats to say you wernt one before, you would never know. Death is a horrid thing to try and think about, one of the only things you cant understand. The brain is weird though, you can have a weird nightmare and be doing things and have no clue what you are doing or where you are then not remember anything the next day, and thats just from sleeping, so death i suppose is just a nothing. You could have died last night in your sleep, if you had never woken up fom last nights sleep what or where would you be now?
 
mp3kla said:
Ok, I've not thought about this for a long long time, and for some reason whilst working in asda at the weekend I thought about death... (the job really is that bad...) but seriously..

I had this strange level of realisation, that when my time eventually does come around, what the hell is going to happen to these thoughts, and mind processes...

They'll just stop! I'll rot and decompose, and I won't know the difference.. But humans have something odd about them, we're able to think on another level to any other organism, but we know too much...

We know we're going to die, fall into a pit of blackness and never reappear...


So.. I guess the moral behind the story is, enjoy what you've got whilst it lasts?

What do you think's going to happen to you? (Aside from the hippy religious carp that was created for scared people who can't face the fact there's most likely nothing after death... so to make themselves feel comfy they'll die thinking their going to be sat up there on a cloud next to God, or get reincarnated as their childhood pet Fluffy, or a bird...)
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I LMAO when I read this, unbelievably I had the exact same thoughts when slogging my guts out working in ASDA. When I used to work night shift I often thought of these bizarre questions in my mind. It helped the time pass me by quicker.

Thanks, for brightening up my evening. LOL
 
Rotfl, it must have been a national death day or something,(Sainsburys) as at work on our break I went outside for some reason and joined the cancer stick crew (smokers) and as Legal & General where trying to give away pension & life insurance to colleagues everyone was like… why , id be dead so 120k etc …. On a coffin blah blah … why would it matter as .. Ill be dead! Everyone was like they do cardboard coffins now so basically your worm food :D

must be a retail thing to think of death at work :P
 
what if dying is similar to say... i dunno, going under general anaesthetics? fading away to nothing then what feels like moments later waking up as something or someone else, perhaps as a newborn? perhaps in a paralell universe? i dont know its mind bending, but at the same time its exciting.. in a way.
 
I cannot think about death...
I absolutely **** myself when I do, knowing full well there is not dam thing I can do about it and one day it WILL happen..
"Bricking it" is the understatement of the Millennium
I don't want to die, at all, ever..
 
nokinidea said:
I cannot think about death...
I absolutely **** myself when I do, knowing full well there is not dam thing I can do about it and one day it WILL happen..
"Bricking it" is the understatement of the Millennium
I don't want to die, at all, ever..
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Same, but I can only really get into this state of thinking on quiet, dark nights in bed - wish I could muster up that sheer feeling of dread in other places - i.e. before walking up to a catwalk model since you realise you're going to die :p
 
I go through proper low periods when i think life is pointless thinking about this and it makes me believe in God just to make sense of the pointlessness of it all. The last thing to set me off on a weeks depression was the prologue to Bill Bryson's Brief History of Everything, what a truly depressing read
 
Well technically (within the limits of our scientific understanding), the universe will cease to exist. Everything and I mean EVERYTHING will be destroyed; all of time in every possible timeline will converge to exactly "nothing".


Personally, I believe you enter an infinite dream.
 
When I was younger death scared me. I then thought about the millions upon millions of people who have died previous to me. What's there to be scared of? :) one of the only things i'm truly going to miss is technology and wanting to know what else as humans we'll discover.
 
riddler said:
When I was younger death scared me. I then thought about the millions upon millions of people who have died previous to me. What's there to be scared of? :) one of the only things i'm truly going to miss is technology and wanting to know what else as humans we'll discover.
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We'll miss out, but we won't miss it!
 
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