Autotrader is not 'the market'. Autotrader is a list of people and dealers selling cars, and the ASKING PRICE they want for the car. I could put my Mondeo on there for £9995 doesn't suddenly mean 'on the Market its £9995'.
WTF??? for price comparison it is a bloody good guide.. it's where a massive amount of people buy their cars.. I am not talking the 'odd' example, you can see the 'market' value for any car by looking at the price the majority of people are asking... if you don't understand statistics, I'll happily explain them to you
A petrol Mondeo is less desireable than a diesel Mondeo and so, like for like, will cost less money. This is simple economics - supply and demand. You've already half admitted this is the case by pointing out depreciation is lower on the diesel. If it was lower on the diesel it would be more expensive to buy
well you would think so, but then you see, I actually prefer to back up my assumptions with facts... just look on Autotrader and look at Mondeo GHIA X, 7K Max price, price High to Low.. you would expect the majority of petrol GHIA X's to be a year newer then the TDCI's for 7K, but no.. it seems there is a mixture of 2001/2002 Petrol and TDCI's making up the Majority, with the odd 2.5V6 thrown in..
I still don't think it's a fair comparison really, is it? Think about it. You are now saying you could buy a slightly older diesel instead for the same money as a newer petrol, and then save the money on fuel.
This is where you fall down spectacularly.. people have budgets, and they buy the best they can for the money.. if that means a fractionally older diesel (and this doesn't seem the case when looking at 2nd hand values)then so what, as long as its the same spec level/design year who cares.. you have a choice, save money on fuel, with a much torquier engine, or have a possibly newer reg and pay through the nose at the pumps..
Well yes you could, but if you are prepared to go for a slightly older car you could buy a slightly older petrol and save the money up front, right now, becuase like for like, the petrol engined car is cheaper. You HAVE to agree that like for like they are cheaper otherwise the rest of your arguement falls apart.
again I'd turn to the real world and it seems indicative that screen prices are largely similar.. so really your argument falls very much downwards..
If they both cost the same, then depreciation is the same, and you won't save any money there as you say you will, eh?
except the saving in fuel.. and an easier to drive car..
The crux here is, if (and it doesn't seem to bear out in this specific case) if diesels are more desirable, then you will get a slightly older car.. but it should still be the same design year, etc, just a 51/02 instead of an 02/52 car.. but you will get more back when you come to sell, which is a factor..
Or as in this case, there seems to be no difference in price, in which case, you'd be mad not to go for the diesel, save on fuel, better enginer.. either way, there is a case for the diesel..
Whereas you cite... oh wait, you've not actually cited any figures bar some dubious consumption figures which suggest you caned the living crap out of the petrol car (Seriously in 2 years of driving a 2.0 Mondeo I have NEVER, EVER got as little as 22mpg out of it and contrary to popular belief I don't drive everywhere as if I'm giving my gran a lift) and cruised around in the diesel one..
I don't really give a rats behind.. just take manufacturers figures.. Oh but then I have had a lot of hire cars, have the expenses forms showing total fuel receipts, and start/end mileages, and so can/have worked out my MPG on numerous occasions in Diesel and Petrol Mondeo's.. where as you don't even have the relevant model Mondeo, and certainly don't appear to have any credible experience of the TDCi fuel consumption on similar journeys.. As I said, we all drive differently, my claims of 50% better MPG In a diesel for my driving style are very much true for me..
I read the article, frankly it wasn't really that good and it covered new cars and not £4-5k used cars anyway. So it's not really relevant here is.
You quoted £1500 difference in cost price, I assumed you where once again generalising about new cars, or where you actually trying to insinuate that on a 2001/2 TDCI GHIA X, you would have to pay £1500 more for the diesel version?? This article shows that 'worse' case, and very much worse case, that with new cars, diesels in a lot of cases actually make more financial sense then petrol cars, even doing 'low to average' mileages..
Can you? Where are these 'facts' then?
Err. sensibly using data from Autotrader, Autoexpress, My own expenses forms..... not some hypothetical rubbish founded on absolutely bugger all..
bring it on FOX... well that's after you've dropped Granny home!!
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Autotrader on the internet is a bad way of guaging this - you've no idea what condition the cars are in or why they are priced the way they are and there is often the usual well dressed dog making the rest look expensive or whatever.
