Defib in a box

Zenduri · 24 Mar 2014 at 18:59

No not an alternate track from loney island

Genuine question. On my usual commute into then out of Notts city centre on the tramp wagon (bus) i've noticed a pub on one of the main roads into the city has a nice new bright yellow box fixed on the wall outside of it.

Im assuming its a defib due to the heart and electric shock symbol and its about the right size for a portable one.

Can anyone confirm what it is and if it is one im bemused it hasnt been stolen.

My question for the day

badbiddy · 24 Mar 2014 at 19:08

We have a defib in a box at my office. There's nothing particularly exciting or dangerous that happens there apart from some good work being done once in a while.

I'm told it has step by step instructions on what to do in the event of having to use it. If it wasn't the office of a FTSE100 company then I'd have been tempted to use it for some sort of prank by now but I'm fairly confident that would not be well received.

Fenris · 24 Mar 2014 at 19:27

I highly doubt it if it is outside.

robfosters · 24 Mar 2014 at 19:28

badbiddy said:
We have a defib in a box at my office. There's nothing particularly exciting or dangerous that happens there apart from some good work being done once in a while.

I'm told it has step by step instructions on what to do in the event of having to use it. If it wasn't the office of a FTSE100 company then I'd have been tempted to use it for some sort of prank by now but I'm fairly confident that would not be well received.

Sounds like a Heartstart machine. Pads on, press the button and stand back. The machine does all the work, calculating rhythm, optimal time for shock and all that.

Efour · 24 Mar 2014 at 19:29

Loads here in Sweden all in public locations. Nearest in the shopping mall

(19 in total i just got told) and its a pretty small town.

Mynight · 24 Mar 2014 at 19:29

They've started introducing them externally on certain pubs clubs in city centers. My old club whinged about having theirs installed apparantly it isn't optional if you're chosen.

I don't know how they don't get stolen. They're not cheap things.

robfosters · 24 Mar 2014 at 19:32

Mynight said:
They've started introducing them externally on certain pubs clubs in city centers. My old club whinged about having theirs installed apparantly it isn't optional if you're chosen.

I don't know how they don't get stolen. They're not cheap things.

Not exactly the easiest thing to sell on.

Glaucus · 24 Mar 2014 at 19:34

They've been spring up in more and more places, the one which I was surprised about, was one attached to a wall in the middle of a small village.

More places the better. They are simple to use and tell you what to do.

ci_newman · 24 Mar 2014 at 19:36

We've had one outside in our village for a while now

kindai · 24 Mar 2014 at 19:37

robfosters said:
Not exactly the easiest thing to sell on.

Indeed, not to mention what actually makes them up wouldnt be worth the risk/effort to steal them.

Mynight · 24 Mar 2014 at 20:01

robfosters said:
Not exactly the easiest thing to sell on.

Very true. I wouldn't be all too suprised if they have GPS or some kind of low jack in them.

frying_pan_cat · 24 Mar 2014 at 20:02

I did a first aid course recently and was told they've put them in some old phone boxes. When you ring 999 they give you the code to get to them apparently so I'd guess others would be the same.

Also apparently removing a defibrilator without permission can result in manslaughter charges

Lopéz · 24 Mar 2014 at 20:25

A guy I work with had a heart attack and collapsed and died at our head office recently. Now we have a defib box on the wall in reception.

Westyfield2 · 24 Mar 2014 at 21:05

There's one outside at Uni by all the bus stops. Doubt anyone knows how to use it though!

Paul11 · 24 Mar 2014 at 21:07

they are very easy to use, they tell you what to do,, literally , they speak

with very minimal training anyone can use one

tlrBeta · 24 Mar 2014 at 21:10

Westyfield2 said:
There's one outside at Uni by all the bus stops. Doubt anyone knows how to use it though!

That's the whole point of the design, you put the pads on and it tells you.

Usually one of the following:

1) Do nothing (silly as it may sound but the person might be fine

)

2) CPR

3) Shocking - stand back

Veco · 24 Mar 2014 at 21:17

My company have just fit them all over the offices. Unfortunately they've made it unnecessarily beurocratic and told everyone they're not allowed to use them without going on a training course. Then guy who campaigned for them to be fit is not best pleased about this.

Burnsy2023 · 24 Mar 2014 at 21:24

Fenris said:
I highly doubt it if it is outside.

There are loads of AEDs (Automated External Defibrillator) outside.

robfosters said:
Sounds like a Heartstart machine. Pads on, press the button and stand back. The machine does all the work, calculating rhythm, optimal time for shock and all that.

Most AEDs are like this.

tlrBeta said:
That's the whole point of the design, you put the pads on and it tells you.

Usually one of the following:

1) Do nothing (silly as it may sound but the person might be fine )

2) CPR

3) Shocking - stand back

The person may not be fine at all, but AEDs only help if the heart is in ventricular fibrillation. There are plenty of times when this isn't the case and therefore a shock won't help.

Burnsy2023 · 24 Mar 2014 at 21:25

Veco said:
My company have just fit them all over the offices. Unfortunately they've made it unnecessarily beurocratic and told everyone they're not allowed to use them without going on a training course. Then guy who campaigned for them to be fit is not best pleased about this.

This is ridiculous. An untrained monkey could use the vast majority of AEDs.

Begbie · 24 Mar 2014 at 21:34

Veco said:
My company have just fit them all over the offices. Unfortunately they've made it unnecessarily beurocratic and told everyone they're not allowed to use them without going on a training course. Then guy who campaigned for them to be fit is not best pleased about this.

Training could be done over mass email. This is ridiculous, though I'd like to think anyone sensible enough would ignore this and use it if need be anyway.

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