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Interesting article:

NVIDIA Volta To Solidly Outperform Vega; May Utilize TSMC’s Leaner 12nm Process Node For Performance, Energy Efficiency Gains


NVIDIA Volta is expected to come up with monster next-generation specs to solidly outperform AMD's Radeon RX Vega. The green team will be contracting Taiwan Semiconductor as manufacturing partner for its next-generation GPU, which may be based on a leaner 12 nm fabrication process than Vega's 14 nm.

NVIDIA has long been a GPU market leader until early reports of the Vega threatens the green team's long-held position. The AMD Radeon RX Vega is the red team's answer to NVIDIA's fastest card in the market, the newly announced GeForce GTX 1080 Ti. However, NVIDIA will not take the challenge sitting down and is reported to be working with the next-generation NVIDIA Volta architecture. Not much information has been known or leaked about the Pascal successor, other than the fact that it will be working with TSMC particularly in the manufacturing of the upcoming Volta GPUs.


NVIDIA has reportedly returned to TSMC after reports that it is also working with Samsung's 14 nm GP107 silicon. It could be that NVIDIA opted for a smaller die shrink, which is by theory equivalent to huge performance gains. Global Foundries has proven this in its 12nm process achieving 15 percent improvements in performance while consuming 50 percent less power than the 16nm process, Motley Fool has learned. Recently, TSMC revealed a stop-gap measure between the current node and the yet unreachable 7nm lithography, the 12nm mode. The shrunken process is based on the current 16nm design with marked improvements in performance, density, and energy efficiency.

There is strong indication that NVIDIA will be applying TSMC's updated 16nm design to solidly outperform Vega's own improvements in performance and power from a shrunken fabrication process. It is reported to use the GDDR6 memory or the HBM2 just like Vega to deliver speeds of 16Gbps from the 10Gbps in the GTX 1080's GDDRX5. All these will be known before the year ends if NVIDIA sticks to the timetable since the green team has already failed to deliver the NVIDIA Volta GPU in the supercomputer of the Oak Ridge National Library.

The NVIDIA roadmap now sets the Volta in 2018 as the green team is expected to still squeeze more from its Pascal architecture. The Volta GPUs will more likely come in the GTX 30 series, the GTX 3080 and 3080 Ti in the high-end of the market with the 3070 in the mid-range. Meanwhile, the GTX 20 series will be Pascal refresh GPUs to be launched within this year. The said series will be lower in prices and delivers improved performance from the GTX 10 series according to #mce_temp_url#Market Realist. The GPU market may even hear of a full-fat GP102 GPU, where GTX 1080 Ti and the Titan X were based from to be announced in the NVIDIA's GPU technology in May.
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Source: http://www.universityherald.com/art...utperform-vega-utilize-tsmc-s-leaner-12nm.htm
 
Griffildur said:
so far so good, it's good to see both companies have a proper contest for a change. guess who's going to win out of all this?
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Me! (Us?) Price war baby! This is why I want AMD to do well. So my pocket benefits :p
 
TNA said:
Me! (Us?) Price war baby! This is why I want AMD to do well. So my pocket benefits :p
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us definitely! I am not necessarily looking at price only tbh, I just want to see better performance from both and a reason to keep innovating. Even if the price goes up ...
 
llamadal said:
That site makes up so much trash.
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First I have ever been to it. Can't be worse than wccftech? That is the worst site I have ever seen and it gets linked here more than any other. Make up a bunch of articles guessing, then if one holds true, claim they knew it all along and said so linking back to an old post. lol. Remember all the lies they said about RX 480? :p

Griffildur said:
us definitely! I am not necessarily looking at price only tbh, I just want to see better performance from both and a reason to keep innovating. Even if the price goes up ...
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For me most important is price for performance. Followed by performance overall obviously :)
 
I think it goes without saying - I think NV are way ahead although they're both way out of sync too, so AMD may appear to catch when Vega appears but wont be too long before NV release their their next gen afterwards.
I reckon the TX spec 1080 Ti chips and decent pricing means we're not too far away- definitely think the gap between 1080 Ti and 1180 will be shorted than the 980 Ti to 1080 was.
 
DarrenM343 said:
I think it goes without saying - I think NV are way ahead although they're both way out of sync too, so AMD may appear to catch when Vega appears but wont be too long before NV release their their next gen afterwards.
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This is my guess too. Vega I think will match or pull ahead (by a slim margin, after being a year late that is) for a while, then Volta will leapfrog it again. Don't know much about Navi to say anything about that really.

Pascal refresh will probably help Nvidia keep competitive until Volta arrives.
 
I think Volta is further away than people think it is, maybe this time next year for the standard parts and then Christmas 2018/19 for the big boyz.

OP that site is pure trash, keep an eye on it for a few days/weeks and you'll soon see.
 
BigBANGtheory said:
I think Volta is further away than people think it is, maybe this time next year for the standard parts and then Christmas 2018/19 for the big boyz.

OP that site is pure trash, keep an eye on it for a few days/weeks and you'll soon see.
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I will take your guys word for it. Won't bother going there again.

But serious question, is it worse than wccftech? People honestly love that site here and it is trash also.
 
Both mainly post clickbait trash, wcc sometimes get it right because they copy from someone reliable. The guys at university herald will have solid careers at the dailymail.
 
As far as I can see, there isn't any information there. What we have is speculation about which company will make the chips, speculation about the process size, speculation about the results of that process size, speculation about release dates and speculation about performance. All reasonable speculation but so generic that it would be true for almost any processor from almost any company from almost any period of time.

So...

nvidia's next generation GPU will probably be manufactured by a big chip manufacturing company.
It will probably be released within 2 years.
It will probably use the smallest fabrication process that is practical in large volumes at the time.
It will probably be more powerful than their current generation GPUs by a margin that will probably not be trivial.

In related news: water is wet.
 
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