Poll: DELETED_74993

Capital Punishment - your views

  • Keep the ban on CP

    Votes: 171 58.8%

  • Bring back CP

    Votes: 120 41.2%
  • Total voters
    291
Gackt said:
DEM PEDOS CANT REOFFEND LOLZ
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That's an interesting point.

I wonder how many people would vote for death penalty for sex offenders, exp pedos. I suspect if it went to a popular vote the emotional knee-jerk reaction would be to hang everyone whose crime involves a minor.
 
^TANK^ said:
Oh *******s I was to quick to vote lol, I meant to click Bring back CP. The youth of our society without a shadow of a doubt need a good kick up the arse and corporal punishment fits the bill a sugary treat.
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Somehow I don't think that hanging little Jonny is going to teach him to mend his ways.
 
^TANK^ said:
Oh *******s I was to quick to vote lol, I meant to click Bring back CP. The youth of our society without a shadow of a doubt need a good kick up the arse and corporal punishment fits the bill a sugary treat.
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You sound pretty uninformed, and the death penalty is a form of capital punishment... not corporal.

Corporal punishment would indeed be a 'kick up the arse' for youths. Capital punishment would just kill them.
 
Jokester said:
Indeed it doesn't affect the chances of being wrongly convicted on each individual trial as, as you correctly point out, they are completely independent events. But the odds of being wrong convicted in 2 trials is indeed multiplicative specifically because of that fact, in the same way of getting 2 heads in a row is 1 in 4 or 3 heads is 1 in 8.
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Not entirely. The presumption there is that trials are logical and mathematical in their operation. The reality is that they are conducted by humans, and as such the flaws of one trial are quite likely to be replicated by a subsequent second or third trial.
 
Hatter The Mad said:
Did you read the thread title!?
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Yes but until now I didn't know that corporal punishment involved the death penalty, I don't want that I want something like the chain gang or some form of conscription in the army to turn them into civilised well mannered human beings.
 
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I don't agree with the death penalty but if someone has taken someone's life they should be given a life sentence not 25 years or less in some cases. Prisons over here need to seriously toughen up. They get way too many luxuries and some offenders have even said its better than the outside world.
 
secretspy said:
some offenders have even said its better than the outside world.
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Don't you think that's very telling? I can't imagine how prison could be better than my free and happy life, so I think that says very much about how depressing and violent some of these people's 'outside world' lives must be, and goes some way to explaining why they are the way they are.
 
I guess you could look at it that way. I just recall seeing an article once. can't remember it word for word but he basically said he didn't have to worry about bills etc or working. Had a tv and games console in his cell and was pretty happy being inside.
 
secretspy said:
I guess you could look at it that way. I just recall seeing an article once. can't remember it word for word but he basically said he didn't have to worry about bills etc or working. Had a tv and games console in his cell and was pretty happy being inside.
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I can imagine that for a lot of people the stability, security and few basic luxuries that prison offers is better than their lot on the outside. It's some reflection on the quality of life in parts of our society that such an existence in a prison, with all the curtails on freedom it entails, is preferable. I just don't think the right conclusion and best course of action is to make the conditions in prison worse, but instead we should try to make the conditions outside of prison better.
 
^TANK^ said:
Yes but until now I didn't know that corporal punishment involved the death penalty, I don't want that I want something like the chain gang or some form of conscription in the army to turn them into civilised well mannered human beings.
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Capital punishment = death
Corporal punishment = inflicting pain/mutilation

So I am not sure what you thought you were voting for :p
 
Jokester said:
But that's the point, you've proven someone guily of independent crimes multiple times, so it becomes improbable that you're putting someone innocent to the gallows, even if they were innocent of one of them.

I mean it doesn't even need to be 3 offences it could be 4 or 5 just 3 strikes is a catchy title, but once you reach 3 or more the odds of killing someone innocent become so astronomical that it's become implausible.
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But what are they guilty of? If their first offence is one that you might think is worthy of the death peanlty (say murder) then hopefully we won't let them out to murder someone again. If the first offence is relatively minor, then you're saying it's OK to execute someone who's definitely committed at least one minor crime.

Neither of those make any sense to me.
 
i would never say yes to capital punishment because of the possibility of killing an innocent person.

toughening up the prisons is the answer for sure
 
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