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trigger-happy · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:17

OH FFS!!! I hate this country when it comes to war!! Cant for once in our miserable lives stay out of another war, our economy is ****ed up and we cant afford another!! :mad:

The IAEA have been investigating in Iran for along time and they have shown evidence that they dont even have enough of the raw materials to create a freaking nuke! Damn this propaganda to hell!

George Hincapie · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:18

Moses said:
But we're talking about wiping out a country, in the context of MAD. One bomb, delivered in such a way, is different to that :|.

No. You are talking about it in the context of MAD. You can't expect all countries to adopt the same approach. More importantly, you need to consider in which way stolen weapons might be used, because that's the real threat isn't it?

Sankari · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:19

OldCoals said:
A charge that can easily be levelled at various western countries.

How many western countries sponsor terrorism?

RoboCod · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:21

trigger-happy said:
OH FFS!!! I hate this country when it comes to war!! Cant for once in our miserable lives stay out of another war, our economy is ****ed up and we cant afford another!! The IAEA have been investigating in Iran for along time and they have shown evidence that they dont even have enough of the raw materials to create a freaking nuke! Damn this propaganda to hell!

Post + username does not compute.

LabR@t · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:21

something is needed to take our minds of the fact economic collapse is about to happen.

KillBoY_UK · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:22

Sometime I think people would rather wait for a attack before doing anything,

dirtydog · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:23

Evangelion said:
How many western countries sponsor terrorism?

The US and UK predominantly.

dirtydog · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:24

trigger-happy said:
OH FFS!!! I hate this country when it comes to war!! Cant for once in our miserable lives stay out of another war, our economy is ****ed up and we cant afford another!! The IAEA have been investigating in Iran for along time and they have shown evidence that they dont even have enough of the raw materials to create a freaking nuke! Damn this propaganda to hell!

Your government is in control

We must attack Iran to be safe

Resistance is futile

Go back to sleep

gettothechopper · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:25

what a load of rubbish that guardian article is

as far as the uk planning anything
"he who fails to plan, plans to fail"

George Hincapie · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:31

Evangelion said:
How many western countries sponsor terrorism?

Lots. The US & UK for a start. That being the tip of the iceberg I'm sure. If you want to add destabilising foreign governments to the list, then you can add more.

lewism · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:34

trigger-happy said:
OH FFS!!! I hate this country when it comes to war!! Cant for once in our miserable lives stay out of another war, our economy is ****ed up and we cant afford another!! The IAEA have been investigating in Iran for along time and they have shown evidence that they dont even have enough of the raw materials to create a freaking nuke! Damn this propaganda to hell!

There are only three guaranteed things in life. Death, Taxes and War.

All three make a nice, never ending triangle.

George Hincapie · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:36

Moses said:
No, we. This has stemmed from you replying to my post about MAD :|.

Only in the sense that you said you needed huge stockpiles of nuclear weapons, and I have showed that you don't.

I don't believe that we'd ever have a nuclear exchange in the Cold War conceived manner.

George Hincapie · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:45

Moses said:
That's evidence of "lots" of state sponsored terrorism? The UK in Ireland, and Iran accusing the UK of doing one thing in 2006? America with Cuba and the Mujahideen in the eighties? Anything modern, which can be substantiated?

That's the first link I found. I'm sure, with some effort, you could find many more allegations. I don't have personal access to the records of our Intelligence community sadly. I do believe strongly that we, and the US, have done much and more to destabilise 'unhelpful' regimes around the World. Terrorism is a question of perspective...

No, you didn't show you don't need a stockpile to enact MAD. You showed a completely different style of attack could happen (something I've never disagreed with).

*sigh*

I have explained myself, I'm not doing it again.

Pate · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:51

The problem is that whilst I'm sure that no logical country would be so stupid as to try some underhand way of provoking such a level of destruction, unfortunately Iran is headed by an utter ******** at the moment who seems more than willing to do just that.

dirtydog · 2 Nov 2011 at 22:53

kenmare said:
The problem is that whilst I'm sure that no logical country would be so stupid as to try some underhand way of provoking such a level of destruction, unfortunately Iran is headed by an utter ******** at the moment who seems more than willing to do just that.

Define that - do you mean someone who stands up to the muppets of America and Britain?

[TW]Fox · 2 Nov 2011 at 23:05

dirtydog said:
Define that - do you mean someone who stands up to the muppets of America and Britain?

You can't honestly think he's a rational chap though?

I think he's a nutcase personally and that his regieme *is* a threat. However I think it's more a threat to its own people - a bunch of really rather nice people that are probably no more fond of the government they have than we are, and a bunch of people for whom yet more military action will do no good for.

I mean did you see some of the stuff he said during the looting in London? It was borderline comedy gold.

dirtydog · 2 Nov 2011 at 23:07

[TW]Fox;20469239 said:
You can't honestly think he's a rational chap though?

I think he's a nutcase personally and that his regieme *is* a threat. However I think it's more a threat to its own people - a bunch of really rather nice people that are probably no more fond of the government they have than we are, and a bunch of people for whom yet more military action will do no good for.

I mean did you see some of the stuff he said during the looting in London? It was borderline comedy gold.

Yeah okay but do you think people Obummer and Cameroon are remotely credible or rational? Or trustworthy? In any way shape or form?

dirtydog · 2 Nov 2011 at 23:08

Of course what he said was comedy gold. He was taking the **** out of the muppets who run our countries. And good on him for that TBH.

Danthus · 2 Nov 2011 at 23:09

Like the hypocrisy of Cameron wanting to shut down the Blackberry network..........