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Delidding 4770K

Ah that sucks, got this off the AS website Not Electrically Conductive:
Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.


That's a no go then :(

Does it need to be cover for heat reasons or is it just down to protecting it from the Liquid pro?
 
Ah cheers Vonex, could i ask you a few questions bud.

Basically did it help with temps when you did it? how much?

Did you use the vice method to remove the IHS?
 
Cheer Kyle and almighty.

Unfortunately i don't have access to tape or MX4, looks like it's going to be nail varnish.

I don't suppose anyone can tell me the width of the IHS? only have a small vice and not sure on how wide it'll go.

Cheers
Dave
 
Seeing as your watercooling now mate, will you be going direct die or keeping the ihs in place? Look forward to your results. Good luck.:)

Cheers bud,

Nervous but excited too:D, got the liquid pro and a temp display for my loop turning up tomorrow.

In regards to going direct die or keeping the IHS, the plan is to keep the IHS and see how it goes first.

truthfully my temps aren't bad at all tbh, i don't run stuff like IBT, prime etc, i just game and the max temps i've seen after hours of BF4 is around 60C on 1 core, that's @4.6 1.3v, the rest are lower (which is one of the reason i want to do this to make the temps a little more uniform).

I'm also hoping that with the cpu running at lower temps, it'll mean cooler temps in the loop for my gpu too.

I'm half tempted to just take the cpu out now and try delidding but i think I'll wait so i can get it all done in one go.
 
Another 4790k lol, getting a hold of an L4 to test and possibly swap. Tbh a few months down the line i could even see myself moving to X99.

I'll be no doubt moving to X99 on release too, looking forward to it, hope you have better luck with the new cpu though bud, btw, what cooling are you using?
 
It's ALIIIVVVVEEE!!!

Well as you can all guess i've done it, massive thanks for all the support guys, give me a chance to do some testing and i'll update this with a few pics and my experience.

All i'll say it that so far... i'm very impressed ;)
 
Well guys here it is.

First i'll start with the process and how i went about it.

What i used:

Thin Stanley blades
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=TH-005-CL


my original plan was to use the vice method and after watching a load of vids i felt confident, that was until it came to doing it..

If you're remotely good at DIY then you'd probably have no issues, but i'm not, after placing the cpu in the vice i just couldn't bring myself to hit it hard enough with a rubber hammer.

If i wreaked the cpu there'd be no chance of getting a new one for at least a month, so i decided to use the blade method instead.

You'll need thin blades for this to work, i've seen a few vids of guys using shaving blades, but i found it much easier with a thin Stanley blade, as they tend not to bend.

First cut

As you can see i started on the corners first, making my way around the IHS in a clockwise direction, tbh it wasn't difficult at all and just moving the blade forward and back was enough to get though the glue.

Something i found to help was this, a small hobby magnifying glass.

Be careful on the leftside (as you look at it), about a centimetre in is the Vrms, it's not to difficult though as you'll feel straight away when your past the glue, just be patient, don't apply too much force and go slow.

After getting around the corners i positioned the blade along the straights and again just wiggled it until it was passed the glue.

The end result should look something like this.
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A bloody mess right?, first i decided to get the paste off the cpu, using a little bit of roll and cotton buds.
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Once that was done, i set about removing the glue, i used the edge of a card i had in my wallet and just started peeling it off, taking care not to hit any of the vrms.

When i removed as much of it as possible, i gave the whole thing a wipe over with the Isopropyl cloth that comes with the Liquid Pro paste.

I repeated the process on the IHS.

Happy with how everything was looking, it was time to apply the Liquid Pro, as others have mentioned, this stuff comes out quick, so be very gentle when you apply it.

you won't need a lot at all, i found if you use the size of half a grain of rice it'll be plenty, apply using the cotton buds that come with the Liquid pro and just take your time.

You should have at the end something like this.
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As you can see, i've not done anything to cover the vrms, it's up to you if want to though, using something like MX4 or Clear nail varnish.

And that's it guys, all that's left to do is pop the cpu in the socket, put the IHS on top, close down the clamp and finish off by applying some Liquid Pro to the IHS.

The rest is up to the gods and how careful you were during the process.

Thankfully my system booted up first time and the results definitely worth it:)

I don't use Prime, Ibt or any of that, i prefer to just test using either something like Bf3-4, record around a 10min clip of the gameplay then use handbrake to encode it.

I have no doubt at all though, if i were to use Prime or IBT, i'd see the same sort of drops in temperature.

On to the results

4770K @4.6 1.3v (WC) 290X @1200/1400 +120mv (WC)

Before Delidding @Idle

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After delidding @Idle

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For the load tests i used BF4, Ultra settings, 1080P, 64 player for 30mins.

Load before Delidding

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Load after Delidding

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Core 1 = 19c drop or 24% difference.
Core 2 = 17c drop or 22% difference.
Core 3 = 16c drop or 23% difference.
Core 4 = 14c drop or 20% difference.

There you have it, a massive difference and imo definitely worth it, sorry if my testing methods aren't the best, feel free to suggest others and i'll see what i can do.

Cheers
Dave
 
No doubt bud, completely agree, I'll run some more tests later or tomorrow.

Anyone fitted one of these XSPC temp displays before? it's the flat sensor type.
 
My max load temp under IBT very high with the CPU at 4.6Ghz is.....



72.c... Seems the Liquid metal does a good job. I'm using a Dark Rock Pro 2 air cooler as well with MX4 between the heat spreader and cooler.

Very happy, De-lidding is well worth it if you want to dramatically reduce the temps it really shows how useless Intel are tbh...

definitely worth it bud, Fantastic improvement, i feel i may need to reapply the Liquid Pro to the IHS though, as i don't think i covered it all that great.

Good result mate, iirc it hit 94 at 4.5 on 1.264 when I had it, 77 at stock. Earlier less intense versions of p95. Latest are a real torture.

I'll run some stuff like realbench etc this weekend, how's the new cpu bud?

good job dude, was it easier then expected?

Very much so Vonex, far easier, don't get me wrong, it was still nerve racking, but if you take your time, you should have no issues at all.
 
Seems to be a better chip even at stock mate. Lower vid of 1.200 vs 1.264 on the first one. Definitely keeping this un. Gotta start clocking it up once i get some time. Off work all next week so ill have a good chance to do so.

Awesome stuff bud, chuffed for you, about time you got something decent.

Let us know what you manage to get out of it ;).
 
Very tempted to scalp this new one I've got, though tbh I only need it to be game stable at 4.6-4.7ghz Ono, where temps don't really matter that much.

I'd say go for it:D go slow, be patient and i'm 100% positive that you'll have a cooler running cpu in no time at all.

Any questions or help though bud feel free to ask.
 
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