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Deneb Pricing

I'm no expert on it, but a bit of comment I didn't like hearing was that since temps were so low water may not make much of a difference to the maximum overclock. I'm on water :P

The air cooling they've been doing though has been on stock coolers, and as far as I know they've not gone to great lengths to cool the VRM, which apparently is a stumbling block.

My 940 II will be on full custom water, so I'm hopeful of exceeding 4Ghz by a fair margin. Bleeding cost a fortune to get a VRM block for it :/

Something that surprised me was benches shown at the presentation (the i7 machine was verified as not crippled) with Crysis framerates higher on the Phenom than the top i7. That'll be surprising if it's true.
 
I'm no expert on it, but a bit of comment I didn't like hearing was that since temps were so low water may not make much of a difference to the maximum overclock. I'm on water :P

Yes I saw mention of 3.7Ghz with 45c under load, which is pretty awe inspiringly low temps, at a decent voltage bump aswell. The thing is water always comes into its own at a certain point when voltage + speed just creates to much wattage for a normal sized heatsink, even a True, to cool well and you need to get the heat to a large rad to improve temps.

It would certainly seem that AMD got their 45nm tech absolutely perfect, and beat Intel at its own game here. The temps, speeds, wattage all seem incredibly for their first 45nm chips rather than Intel's second go at it. Generally ATi/Nvidia/Intel/AMD will all learn from their first process runs and improve it.
 
"Dragon" and "Phenom" sound good, then again "Nephalem" sounds good too. I don't like the "Smithfield" and "Prescott" etc names that Intel come up with. My all time favourite is "ClawHammer". Who doesn't want a processor that's called ClawHammer?

People who got the Sledgehammer instead? :p
 
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