Denon AV receiver model numbers

mushtafa · 20 Dec 2022 at 20:31

I need to upgrade my AV receiver and thinking of going for a Denon. What's the key to their model numbers? I can't seem to figure it out. Anyone know?

hornetstinger · 20 Dec 2022 at 20:47

In order of quality,

1xxx, 2xxx, 3xxx, 4xxxx, 6xxx, 8xxx, A110.

They also have more budget AVR's below 1xxx range.

Latest is x800, like 3800.

What is your budget?

mushtafa · 20 Dec 2022 at 20:57

Not sure on budget. Maybe £400 on the second hand market.
I need to upgrade my Onkyo 646; need Dolby Vision compatibility, 5.1.2 Atmos

hornetstinger · 20 Dec 2022 at 21:03

AVR's have gone stupidly expensive, you're probably looking at 3600, 4500 second hand for that price.

the second number is the generation, ie 3400 But some gens skip the second number like there is no 4600 but there is 3600.

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mushtafa · 20 Dec 2022 at 21:07

I looked on Richer Sounds and was amazed by the prices!

I saw that one this morning but hadn't done my Denon research yet

hornetstinger · 20 Dec 2022 at 21:11

Yeah price difference between 3700 and 3800...although the later does have extra sub outputs and Dirac (at a later upgrade price)
Still it's a lot of money, for in essence a mid range AVR.

I remember when budget Yamaha AVR's were around £150

andy_mk3 · 20 Dec 2022 at 21:19

I had to replace my AVR last year due to my old Yamaha dying outright. Replaced it with an AVR-X2700H which is more than adequate for my needs, by the cost of them has most certainly gone up a huge amount, I couldn't believe it.

mushtafa · 20 Dec 2022 at 21:23

Am I right in thinking Denon is probably a nice upgrade over an Onkyo unit? Or could you recommend anything else? (I've always bypassed Yamaha and Sony, and Marantz and Arcam etc are silly money)

hornetstinger · 20 Dec 2022 at 21:29

Yamaha's I found have a decent sound, but their room EQ isn't the best (but you can tweak it youself as it has manual PEQ settings) Generally reliable. I've owned three Yamaha's and even the old one still works fine that has been sold off.

Denon room EQ is quite advanced, but you'd want the 3xxx range. Marantz are same company as Denon - Marantz have HDAM circuitry.

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theone8181 · 21 Dec 2022 at 10:51

What is it you want from the amp? Just thinking if you need something like hdmi 2.1, that reduces your option considerably.

mushtafa · 21 Dec 2022 at 10:59

theone8181 said:
What is it you want from the amp? Just thinking if you need something like hdmi 2.1, that reduces your option considerably.

My current amp doesn't pass Dolby Vision, so need that

hornetstinger · 21 Dec 2022 at 11:44

mushtafa said:
My current amp doesn't pass Dolby Vision, so need that

Why not go source to TV for video, then use second hdmi on your source for audio.

Or source to TV then use e-arc

mushtafa · 21 Dec 2022 at 12:28

The source is a Nvidia Shield so only a single HDMI output.
E-arc is only 5.1, so no good

hornetstinger · 21 Dec 2022 at 13:49

mushtafa said:
The source is a Nvidia Shield so only a single HDMI output.
E-arc is only 5.1, so no good

Nope, E-ARC carries all codecs (Atmos, DTS HD, DD HD, DTS X) , if your TV supports it.

mushtafa · 21 Dec 2022 at 14:15

hornetstinger said:
Nope, E-ARC carries all codecs (Atmos, DTS HD, DD HD, DTS X) , if your TV supports it.

Oh, OK. This I didn't know. I'll check the TV specs later and have a look. I assume it's done via HDMI and optical is still limited to 5.1?

mushtafa · 21 Dec 2022 at 15:27

So I've done some reading and earc would be the answer to my problems, but the Onkyo isn't earc compatible. So back to replacing the amp again

theone8181 · 21 Dec 2022 at 19:55

What tv do you have, earc is still relatively new iirc (although maybe 3 years old now?)

mushtafa · 21 Dec 2022 at 20:01

theone8181 said:
What tv do you have, earc is still relatively new iirc (although maybe 3 years old now?)

I've just bought an LG OLED65CS6LA https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-oled65cs6la

I'd guess the Onkyo is approx 5-6 years old now. I'm sure I bought that when I bought a 3D TV to find I had to upgrade the amp.
Seems every time I buy a TV, an amp is required too

theone8181 · 21 Dec 2022 at 20:08

mushtafa said:
I've just bought an LG OLED65CS6LA https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-oled65cs6la

I'd guess the Onkyo is approx 5-6 years old now. I'm sure I bought that when I bought a 3D TV to find I had to upgrade the amp.
Seems every time I buy a TV, an amp is required too

I know the feeling, I'm constantly leap frogginh. I have a 6 year old samsung in the living room, but bought a 3700 a year or so ago. A new TV is on the cards, but I'm struggling to justify 1800 for a nice 65 inch (even with liberal use of man maths lol).