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Did I buy a Core 2 Duo?

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hi there

I bought an E2200 from ocuk (link)

The page says its an Intel Core 2 Duo E2200, I bought it because I heard that the Core2's overclock very well. Looking at the packaging of the E2200 it doesnt say core2 anywhere, only "Pentium Dual-core Processor". I've looked at pictures of more expensive Core 2's on ocuk and they clearly have "Core 2 Duo" on their box. Am I missing something here?

[edit] also, cpuz and all other applications that report cpu spec only state Pentium Dual Core, never Core2?
[edit2] my laptop has a core 2 and cpuz correctly reports this
[edit3] actually, the box in the picture in the link says "core 2 duo", the box that my cpu came in doesnt!
 
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No it is a Core 2 Duo, just packaged up as a Pentium. Don't worry about it. I had the same cpu clocked at 3.3Ghz. They should do 3Ghz on a decent mobo easy.
 
It is C2D just with only 1Mb L2 but they perform very similarly so I wouldn't worry about it. That's a good buy and I hope you will be overclocking it very soon!
 
thanks guys, info much appreciated. Regarding overclocking this cpu, I currently have it at 266 x 10 (this allows me to set my crucial ballistix tracer to 1033MHz), I thought that increasing the multi to 11 (giving me 3GHz) would be ok but the system became unstable and restarted after post. Are there cpu options in the bios I should disable in order to achieve the higher speed? Friend of mine has a core 2 1.8GHz overclocked to 3.2GHz on stock vcore and on air with good temps, I was keen to keep the vcore down for cooling reasons but when I found that the cpu was labelled as a Pentium this made me think that it wasnt a Core 2 thus the problems overclocking. Any help would be much appreciated.
 
i have mine running at 266 X 11 and its rock solid, ill take a pic of what my bios settings are and post it here. it can run higher but i prefer just 266x11 for normal use because of the volts needed to run higher

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i have mine running at 266 X 11 and its rock solid, ill take a pic of what my bios settings are and post it here. it can run higher but i prefer just 266x11 for normal use because of the volts needed to run higher

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thanks for that matty, much appreciated. Unfortunatly I'm on an American Megatrends bios so its different settings for me, but will set my vcore as you have and give that a go.
 
im not sure exactly what my chip is easier, iv seen it being called an allendale but in cpu z it says conroe, at stock its 2.13ghz and has 2mb level 2 cache and a max multi of 8, is it conroe?
 
Well, I think this is false marketting as the product isn't actually a Core 2 Duo processor as stated on the website...

If it really bothers you mate (even though what you have is still a good overclocker) obviously best to contact OcUK.
 
As Minstadave said they are all based on the core 2 duo architecture with smaller cache and lower FSB.

I think they called different names to differentiate between the cpu's with higher cache and FSB, there was a thread the other year regards the Allendale / Conroe names.

Rob
 
Factually this isn't a Core 2 Duo...but as explained before it effectively is, just with only 1MB of cache. Think of it as Intel's 2nd tier Celeron.

Historically, Intel have always released chips with small amounts of cache to fill the lower price points, aka the Celeron brand. Now with the new Core naming scheme, Intel have got the two brand names to use, and you've got the second level performance chip - there's E1x00 chips as the 'real' Celerons).

Don't sweat it though, you've a nice chip. The performance difference differs dependingon the application, but a 2MB cache chip (E4x00, +E6300 and E6400) at the same clockspeed will be faster, and proportionally with the 4MB (E6x00, -E6300 and E6400).

Don't worry though, OcUK have been a bit cheeky in their wording, but enjoy clocking it!
 
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thanks for all your replies, when I purchased it I was aware of the 1MB level 2 cache, and the clock speed. If this is the only difference between the E2200 and a 2.2GHz core 2 duo, then I've got what I expected to get so no problems there. The main problem is that I can't overclock this chip, I've got it Orthos stable at 10x266 (2.66GHz) but have tried 11x266, 10x270, 6x500 etc and no joy. I'm using crucial ballistix 1033MHz which I underclock to get the cpu stable, but I'm not getting anything. I've set the vcore up to 1.3V and no joy. Like I said earlier in this thread, my friend has a core 2 duo 1.8 overclocked to 3.2 on stock volts and cooling with good temps, I expected my overclock to be a bit easier. I've disabled spread spectrum for both the cpu and the pcie bus, but left most other settings on default. I've manually set the FSB NB strap to different values and no joy. Can anyone suggest what else I can try?
 
It isent a Core 2 Duo becuase Intel say its not, if Intel want to call it a bannana then its a bannana. :p

I agree with you, actually. While the Pentium Dual Core E2XXX series are similar to Core 2 Duos in a lot of respects, they're not because Intel says so.

Now, if we called them Allendale, that would be a fair statement.
 
I agree with you, actually. While the Pentium Dual Core E2XXX series are similar to Core 2 Duos in a lot of respects, they're not because Intel says so.

Now, if we called them Allendale, that would be a fair statement.

same hardware, same thing as far as im (anybody) concerned. its like the many different a64's are all still a64s. intel just decided to give this one a different name. at the end of the day, trying to argue that its not a core2 is just semantics.
 
I agree with you, actually. While the Pentium Dual Core E2XXX series are similar to Core 2 Duos in a lot of respects, they're not because Intel says so.

Now, if we called them Allendale, that would be a fair statement.

E2XXX are not similar to C2Ds, they are C2Ds!

E2XXX, E4XXX and E6XXX are all C2Ds. They just have different amounts of cache and different FSB speeds.

Allendale is one of the types of C2Ds, just like Conroe is.
 
E2XXX are not similar to C2Ds, they are C2Ds!

E2XXX, E4XXX and E6XXX are all C2Ds. They just have different amounts of cache and different FSB speeds.

Allendale is one of the types of C2Ds, just like Conroe is.

But that's it, it's a marketing name.

I know that in all technical and most performance regards they're virtually identical, I was just being a wise-ass. It's like the Tualatin based Celeron, it was basically a die-shrunk Pentium III, but a Celeron nonetheless. Either way, this debate is futile, it bares no meaning.

And just for the records, I use a Pentium Dual Core E2140 myself. I find it interesting how caught up on marketing names people get, though...
 
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