thanks for all your replies, when I purchased it I was aware of the 1MB level 2 cache, and the clock speed. If this is the only difference between the E2200 and a 2.2GHz core 2 duo, then I've got what I expected to get so no problems there. The main problem is that I can't overclock this chip, I've got it Orthos stable at 10x266 (2.66GHz) but have tried 11x266, 10x270, 6x500 etc and no joy. I'm using crucial ballistix 1033MHz which I underclock to get the cpu stable, but I'm not getting anything. I've set the vcore up to 1.3V and no joy. Like I said earlier in this thread, my friend has a core 2 duo 1.8 overclocked to 3.2 on stock volts and cooling with good temps, I expected my overclock to be a bit easier. I've disabled spread spectrum for both the cpu and the pcie bus, but left most other settings on default. I've manually set the FSB NB strap to different values and no joy. Can anyone suggest what else I can try?