Diets - Macros and Calories, what do you really need?

LiE said:
£4 for 4 aren't exactly cheap.
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Wut?

Where are you shopping? Harrods?

It's £1.20 for 4 at Tesco, the ripen at home ones, they're ready to eat in a couple of days. So buy a few packs and then by the time you've finished one, the other pack is ready to eat.
 
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I've been shifting weight since new year, 86kg now from 100kg Jan 1st. I'm struggling now in the gym, noticing loss of strength and i suspect it's diet related, probably not enough fuel in the tank. Can't do enough reps to feel it the next day.

Plan is to break 80kg (5 10") and have been doing probably 80/20 cardio vs weights as wanted to get fitter rather than stronger, but certainly didn't want to get weaker :)

I'm not sure if i should keep going as is until i hit the weight i want then change diet for 'bulking', or adjust my diet and gym routine now
 
I appear to be doing something wrong. Started at the gym again (95Kg/15 stone @ 6ft) and try to go as many week days as I can (so far 3, 3, 5, 4 and 1 in the last month). I know it's not an exact science but I do a combination of running, rowing and stationary cycling aiming to burn off ~500 calories each session (60-80% of MHR). My diet is OK; try to eat more times throughout the day - most week days I will eat ~2,000 calories so around 1,500 net. Weekends - usually keep it under 2,500 but rest exercise wise. It's moderately balanced; milk, chicken, tuna, veg, fruit though I do enjoy the odd carb.

I wasn't expecting instant results but I haven't lost a single pound in over a month. Too impatient or am I doing something wrong?
 
I'm going to say you're eating more than you think you are, or you're going by the calories burnt by reading off a watch/crappy calories burnt estimator thingymabob, which will never be accurate. So you're probably not in a big deficit

Not to mention you're eating the most calories on the weekends which are your rest days, should be the other way round
 
xibinim said:
I appear to be doing something wrong. Started at the gym again (95Kg/15 stone @ 6ft) and try to go as many week days as I can (so far 3, 3, 5, 4 and 1 in the last month). I know it's not an exact science but I do a combination of running, rowing and stationary cycling aiming to burn off ~500 calories each session (60-80% of MHR). My diet is OK; try to eat more times throughout the day - most week days I will eat ~2,000 calories so around 1,500 net. Weekends - usually keep it under 2,500 but rest exercise wise. It's moderately balanced; milk, chicken, tuna, veg, fruit though I do enjoy the odd carb.

I wasn't expecting instant results but I haven't lost a single pound in over a month. Too impatient or am I doing something wrong?
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Your the same weight and height as me and I'm pushing 2.8k to 3k a day down my gullet with my weight broadly remaining the same, with c. 4 days a week training.

I'd argue 2000 (1500) is too low during the week and agree with Steedie that 2500 seems too much at the weekend. Try flipping them and see what happens?
 
It actually is a fairly exact science, its just that you've heard some shoddy information.

More meals aren't better.

Don't exercise for a calories burnt goal.

Cardio isn't necessary for fat loss, and can end up being counter productive.

Milk and fruit are carb sources, and some people do not get on well with milk when cutting.
 
My main problem is portion size, some of my dinners in the past could feed a family of four :o. It's very fortunate I'm not fat (yet) but could do with dropping a couple of stone.

I use Myfitnesspal to track what I eat and how much I exercise - don't take it too seriously but it's an easy way to track. It's weird because I did the exact same thing a year or so ago with rowing - aim to burn off '~600' calories and keep my net between 1500-2000. I lost a stone fairly easily then though I did not drink milk (usually have one pint every morning).

Right so I basically need to eat more in the week and less at weekends? Alcohol is the main culprit, especially parties. I have sacked off beers etc and stick to red wine and spirit/diet coke if I do drink. Not sure how I should change my exercise, I like the mixing of cycling, running and rowing in 30-45 minutes.
 
No but as I said I will keep under the recommended daily amount for calories. The weekend just gone was more excessive than most but took in ~2,400 and ~2,300 over the two days.
 
xibinim said:
No but as I said I will keep under the recommended daily amount for calories. The weekend just gone was more excessive than most but took in ~2,400 and ~2,300 over the two days.
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So your accounting for you alchol intake in those daily totals, or are you purely talking food?

So often people dont realise how easy it is to drink 1k cals in just a few drinks!
 
Syla5 said:
So your accounting for you alchol intake in those daily totals, or are you purely talking food?

So often people dont realise how easy it is to drink 1k cals in just a few drinks!
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I'm talking overall food and drink lol, would sound like an alcoholic otherwise. Typical weekend is a few drinks after work and gym on Friday night followed by normal food intake on the Saturday and Sunday with no gym. This weekend I mentioned was particularly bad as I went to a party on Friday (bottle of red wine) and Saturday (several bacardi & diet cokes and BBQ food though I did burn off at least 20 calories with Wii Fit ;)).


So what should I do to speed up the fat burn/weight loss?
 
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Right I am going to have a proper read of this thread and find out some better ways to utilize my gym time, then come back here and see if it's kosher.
 
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